Dubs rulings

[ChUcK]

So when you're playing doubles, who is allowed to second a foot-fault? Most dubs play as two teams per hole, so if you call a foot fault is your partner allowed to second it? This could be easily abused to gain a stroke or two or three, so it must have to be one of the opposing teammates who seconds it, right? Who's going to second a call on their partner?

[wdb4th]

Your partner can second, I think they can even call it. This could be useful if used right

[ChUcK]

Says who? Tribal knowledge? I'm not sure if I exhausted all possible resources, but all I could find were rules specific only to doubles. What about the general rules of disc golf? How do they apply to doubles, where there are essentially only two competitors. In normal play twosomes aren't allowed, and this is one of the reasons why. Would you need a marshal tagging along to second/initiate calls?

How does this work at World Dubs? Do groups play in sixsomes?

[mark12b]

i'd be curious how pdga-sanctioned dubs deals with it, but for non-sanctioned doubles i'd think that yeah the other team could call and second a foot fault -- but if they're using that power to cheat then they could be DQ'd by the TD. golf depends on people being honorable regardless of if there are 2, 3, 4, or 5 scores on the card.

[some call me...tim?]

Hmmm, but what if the TD is on the team? Interesting time to bring this up, Chuck...

[Chuck Kennedy]

I really didn't want to mess with this issue since Houck is the one who has run World and/or National Doubles for a long time and may have had to make rulings on this. The rules that are posted on PDGA.com for doubles (when it's back up) are from Houck's events.

Regarding foot faults, the initial call needs to be made within 3 seconds, the idea being that the person calling it wouldn't have time to see the result of the throw and have it affect their choice whether to call it or not. Unfortunately, the person who seconds the call doesn't have to second the call within 3 seconds. (Maybe that needs to be added to the rules next update?)

Usually, the person who made the foot fault knows they actually did it and won't necessarily object to the call if both players on the opposing team make the call. If the thrower disagrees, then they can always throw a provisional and let the TD sort it out later. Potentially, the issue would end up irrelevant based on what lie was chosen for the team's next shot. It becomes a little more prickly if the format is something like Worst, Tough or Alternate shot where it may directly impact the score.

[Jesse B 707]

in our biggest local dubs tourneys we play sixsomes