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Postby jytwhite » Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:05 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVxLHdBCbrw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JaMyRLB2GQ

I have an idea about what I'm doing wrong now after watching this. I want to see what you know. I need all the help I can gets.
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Re: critique me

Postby Timko » Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:09 pm

Watch the masterbeato video. You need to rebuild your throw from the hit backwards.
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Re: critique me

Postby jytwhite » Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:19 pm

OOOHHH. So everything. Sweet. Thanks for the super help.
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Re: critique me

Postby Timko » Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:51 pm

jytwhite wrote:OOOHHH. So everything. Sweet. Thanks for the super help.



Masterbeato explains what you need to do better than me :).
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Re: critique me

Postby jytwhite » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:09 pm

You've got to admit though, it's just a little jarring to be told you're not doing anything right when the disc is in your hands.

I just wanted my throw to be critiqued instead of being told to try and copy that guy.
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Re: critique me

Postby jytwhite » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:11 pm

jytwhite wrote:...you're not doing anything right when the disc is in your hands.


Which may or may not be true. :wink:
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Re: critique me

Postby Timko » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:17 pm

Most of the people around here looking for advice are copying the same guy.

But as far as the things you're doing right...Your getting plenty of arm on your throw. The problem is that you're legs are just going along for the ride. You're not generating any additional power from your run up. The way to get your legs more involved is to rebuild your throw from the hit back. It's not that your throw is bad or anything, but the quickest way to get better is to rebuild.

Trust me. Watch the video.
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Re: critique me

Postby Timko » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:21 pm

jsun3thousand wrote:Disc golfers are holding the sport back.
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Re: critique me

Postby black udder » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:31 pm

I'll just hit the highlights:

1) No rotational power from your base (hips, then torso, then shoulders)
2) Weight back at the rip
3) off leg is just hanging out and causing drag the whole time
4) Not squaring up to the target at the rip
5) No late acceleration - just one speed for the throw
6) That big arm swoop at the beginning is wasted energy/movement
7) Final plant step is probably too big (puts legs too far apart) for the momentum and power you're generating
8) Your x-step isn't generating anything significant. While it may preserve your rhythm, it might also decrease your accuracy.
9) You do seem to be keeping the disc in fairly tight - not sure though because of the angle
10) You seem to be on plane, which is good.
11) You're rotating on your heels, which I believe allows a maximum distance for what you do.

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Re: critique me

Postby jytwhite » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:48 pm

I've added another angle to the original post.

Thank you for the comments.
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Re: critique me

Postby black udder » Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:36 pm

okay, you're rotating around and to the right (because you're too upright I think), so that will pull discs off to the right. Also, if you can freeze it at the right moment, you'll see that your chest gets around before you get the disc around. Thus, you have your chest almost facing the target, but the disc is in line with your left arm. This means you're not getting the max pull through that you can. MB shows in his video. Basically, when you rotate, you want to get the disc into your right pec and then rotate your shoulders as well, that way, hopefully, the disc is more in the center of your chest and coming out when your chest squares up.

If you get over your plant leg more, you'll find that you'll hyzer release a lot of stuff and going to more understable discs will help you. That way, you'll be able to flip them up to flat or to turn them over. Good news is, discs last much longer and you can throw lighter weight stuff for more glide.
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Re: critique me

Postby SkeeterBuzzzonaut » Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:12 pm

One little tip that might help is to drop your shoulder a little more. It seems like your a little too upright when you release. If you lean back a little on the run up, then dump all of your weight on your front foot while dropping your shoulder it might help you get some more distance.

I had this problem and my friend told me to 'slap a midget'. Meaning you start the throw at chest level and release a waist level, so the throw is like backhanding somebody a lot shorter than you are.

I hope this helps.
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Re: critique me

Postby masterbeato » Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:53 pm

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Re: critique me

Postby gretagun » Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:25 pm

jytwhite,

I'm no expert here, but it looks like you could benefit by reaching back in a straight line. This was something that Black Udder commented on my video, and has really helped me since:

When you reach back, you don't reach back in a straight line, you reach around your body. Imagine the disc sites in a grooved track that goes straight back from your target. keep the disc on that line and rotate and manipulate your body to stay on that line. When you divert from that path, you lose speed and accuracy with your throw. All you're really doing (supposed to do) is pull your disc in a straight line from your reach back to your rip point. The closer you can stay to that, the more accurate you can become.


Although it has already been mentioned in this thread, I would also recommend starting from the hit backwards and study the Masterbeato driving video. There is so much to pick up and learn from that video, it's ridiculous 8)
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Re: critique me

Postby jytwhite » Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:10 am

thanks everybody for the great comments.
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