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Max strokes per hole (most attention grabbing topic evar!!1)

Postby Jerrod » Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:23 am

Is there a limit to the number of strokes you can be scored on for a hole? I have heard a couple of different things.
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Re: Max strokes per hole (most attention grabbing topic evar!!1)

Postby mobster » Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:37 am

I've never heard of any limits during tournament play.
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Re: Max strokes per hole (most attention grabbing topic evar!!1)

Postby black udder » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:48 pm

Somebody shot a precarious 20 or 20+ at Winthrop a year or two ago. It was the short hole with the bales in front and the lake behind. He threw almost every disc in his bag. So, in long, I don't think there's a limit.

I know that when somebody left one of our tourney's early (couldn't finish) they completed his score card with a 7 for every hole he missed.
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Re: Max strokes per hole (most attention grabbing topic evar!!1)

Postby Chuck Kennedy » Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:59 pm

- No maximum score limit.

- Rick Rothstein shot a 21 on hole 12 known as 888 in the second round of the 2002 USDGC. That was the record until Marty Hapner shot 26 on hole 17 in round one of the 2007 USDGC.

- No one gets 7 for holes they miss if they don't finish the round. It's a DNF (Did Not Finish)

- Sevens are only awarded for holes you miss before arriving to play the round. The most automatic 7s you could get would be one less than the number of holes on the course and you showed up in time to play the last one. I suppose you could shoot a real 7 on that last hole. That round would count for score and would allow you to play more rounds in the event, but would be too low rated to count and pull down your rating.
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Re: Max strokes per hole (most attention grabbing topic evar!!1)

Postby black udder » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:20 pm

Chuck Kennedy wrote:- No maximum score limit.

- Rick Rothstein shot a 21 on hole 12 known as 888 in the second round of the 2002 USDGC. That was the record until Marty Hapner shot 26 on hole 17 in round one of the 2007 USDGC.

- No one gets 7 for holes they miss if they don't finish the round. It's a DNF (Did Not Finish)

- Sevens are only awarded for holes you miss before arriving to play the round. The most automatic 7s you could get would be one less than the number of holes on the course and you showed up in time to play the last one. I suppose you could shoot a real 7 on that last hole. That round would count for score and would allow you to play more rounds in the event, but would be too low rated to count and pull down your rating.


Thanks, Chuck. Marty was (sadly) the one I was thinking of.

I was wondering about the 7 stroke thing. All the tourney scores I've seen have shown DNF. This was league, so perhaps it was a penalty for showing up but not finishing (you could keep a low average by bailing if you were having a bad round).
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Re: Max strokes per hole (most attention grabbing topic evar!!1)

Postby Chuck Kennedy » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:28 pm

No problem using 7s for league rules. I would like to see something like that in the regular PDGA rules since there are times when the player who is likely in the cash has to leave not by "choice" for an emergency including their own injury or to catch a plane when the round has been delayed due to earlier weather issues.
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Re: Max strokes per hole (most attention grabbing topic evar!!1)

Postby JHern » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:30 pm

I saw a guy at a tournament chuck almost his entire bag into a large duck pond. Each lost disc was 2 strokes. Then he just barely got over the water hazard and then several more strokes to the basket.

No mercy. No maximum. :lol:
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Re: Max strokes per hole (most attention grabbing topic evar!!1)

Postby Timko » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:31 pm

Chuck Kennedy wrote:- Rick Rothstein shot a 21 on hole 12 known as 888 in the second round of the 2002 USDGC. That was the record until Marty Hapner shot 26 on hole 17 in round one of the 2007 USDGC.


Hmm. I'm going to have Rick about this one now.
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Re: Max strokes per hole (most attention grabbing topic evar!!1)

Postby Marauder » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:32 pm

Good to know. I didn't know the answer to that one either.
If I ended throwing my whole bag on a hole and getting a 27 or so... yeah. I don't know how I'd recover from that...That's gotta hurt pretty hard on the mental game.
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Re: Max strokes per hole (most attention grabbing topic evar!!1)

Postby Star Shark » Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:01 pm

Slight nitpick - 888 is hole 13 at the USDGC
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Re: Max strokes per hole (most attention grabbing topic evar!!1)

Postby Chuck Kennedy » Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:49 pm

Gotcha. It was hole 12 that year. :)
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Re: Max strokes per hole (most attention grabbing topic evar!!1)

Postby rKp » Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:41 pm

What happens if you throw all your discs in the water?
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Re: Max strokes per hole (most attention grabbing topic evar!!1)

Postby Chuck Kennedy » Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:24 pm

You can play with discs loaned from other players in the group or get more from your car during the round if you have time to get to it. Of course, if you've thrown them all in the lake, your opponents might not want to loan any to you... :)
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Re: Max strokes per hole (most attention grabbing topic evar!!1)

Postby Working Stiff » Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:12 am

Do you automatically get a 7? I always thought it was par + 4. Granted par + 4 usually is a 7.

I used to catch Hell from the PDGA Rules Gestapo because I used the ball golf tradition of double par and gave players a 6 for missed holes in my league, but Ed Headrick designed that course so getting a 6 was like getting a 7 or 8 on a modern course. :P
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Re: Max strokes per hole (most attention grabbing topic evar!!1)

Postby Chuck Kennedy » Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:00 am

It is officially Par + 4. Unfortunately, even on courses with true par 4 or 5 holes, if the TD forgets to publish that those holes have pars higher than 3 - such as printed on the scorecard - then the default would be all par 3s which would then be 7s.
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