Thanks. Nose down info makes sense now. One other question. The height a fast disc needs to get, say 350 feet (10 feet in this post), looks different than the height information given in the articles, where a height of 12 to 20 feet is given. Am I missing something, such as type of disc? I'm throwing a 165 dx orc and sometimes a ce valk and beast, by the way. Considering these and similar discs, what would the heights be for 350 and 400 feet?