i learned to rock all that stuff into the wind, but it was always an iffy trick... not a dead-certainty. having a Gazelle-speed driver with no stabilizer of any kind can only go so far when it comes to wind. and like the entire internet has said, there needs to be a J-speed driver that fights wind, and EXP is both faster and drastically more overstable.
some courses though, you'd be just fine with J's only. like my old home courses... the Meadow was J-capable. the Hill was J-death, solely because of the wind.
as soon as a worn Gazelle leaves my hand, there's nothing to tell me that it isn't my trusty old $$$ J variants. (for over a year I threw almost all non-distance shots with a single SE JLS, imo right up there with CE QJs in choice performance)
i guess what i found is that it's a witch-hunt to find the $$$$ JLSes that fly just like a standard TB or GZ. the main plus for the J is that if DX is not an option for you, you can trade the wind resistance of a Gazelle for the durability of a different plastic. but then you have to add a mold, or track down some freak J's, just for wind situations.
for what it's worth i didn't drop J's for political reasons. i no longer felt obligated to restrict myself to the brand i had worked for, and my tests with GZ and now Cheetahs were an instant win over the J... and i know J's inside and out, so it was no easy sell. originally got J's to learn the brand, and because access to choicies + staff discount made that a great plan. some of the best J throwers i know just have a lifetime supply due to long-ago staff pricing, and tell me they'd go all Gazelle if they could afford it.
keltik wrote:I think ZAM had the right idea.
dgdave wrote:Listen to ZAM.
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jsun3thousand wrote:zam is already in your pants.