Furthur wrote:Either get a lighter one, throw harder, or find a disc with more glide.
Working Stiff wrote:Some of the discs... need to go to make room for it. To me the Coyote seems to be sitting right in that spot...
Dave D wrote:My go to drivers are R-Pro Boss 157-160, and Star Destroyer 169. I throw Vikings and Roadrunners for fairway drivers. My mids are R-Pro Cro and Champion Coyote.
Ryen91 wrote:I am pretty sure I am more intelligent then you think and have allot more knowledge then your post might suggest.
pointdisc wrote:...and not changing the mold midstream while not letting the public know and end up with about 3,458 different molds of the same disc of which the original was the best, but they won't go back to it (usually).
discspeed wrote:Working Stiff wrote:So what is the point of bringing back the San Marino Roc? Other than to confuse the shit out of new players, that is.Jesse B 707 wrote:if they were gonna try to clone anything im pretty sure they would go for the buzz at this point, doubt the comets sales numbers are anything to stress for innova
I guess I could see it if the San Marino flies like shit in Star and Champ and the Mako is planned for Champ and Star runs to complete with the Z and ESP Buzzz. There still is too damn many mids in that lineup if you ask me, something like the Shark or Coyote (or both) need to go.
Dave D. doesn't throw Rocs. In all my posting back and forth with him over the years I would venture to say that if it were not for the Roc's mystique and popularity Dave would have scrapped it by now. So Innova makes the Roc line of beaded mids and the non-Roc line which Dave is more personally invested. Most of these non-Roc mids have had major weaknesses compared to the Roc and its incarnates and clones. Dave still wants to fix this and make a straight mid with good HSS and glide that grips differently from the Roc. I'm not sure the Mako sounds like the answer though.
By the look and description its basically going to be an Aurora-type disc, hardly seems groundbreaking...How will Innova droll up excitement over this one? It not like they can ride the Shark's underwhelming popularity...
x-out wrote:Dave does not like Rocs very much, but he usually does keep one in the bag for a few shots though. It is like you said, its mostly due to the mystique and that so many players endorse it that it is so popular. His bag is ever changing, but he does enjoy a nice spider in the bag. He is on the constant search for a better gripping roc and a putter that will make him into a sniper.
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