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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby discspeed » Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:56 am

Lost my SEX, so I added a fresh Stalker

discspeed wrote:175 Proto Organic Voodoo--The disc that goes in the chains/understable putter driver
175 Proto S Voodoo--stable putter driver

177 ESP Meteor--beat turnover/roller
176 ESP Meteor--pure anhyzers and touch straight shots
178 2FR Buzzz--workhorse mid
177 Z Buzzz (new production run)--overstable mid

175 Z Stalker--Straight/turnover FW driver
176 Z Stalker--moderately overstable FW driver
175 Champ EX--overstable FW driver
175 Champ Firebird--ridiculous overstable for thumbers/utility

173 Champ Monarch--turnovers/rollers
174 Champ Orc--broken in, workhorse D driver
175 Champ Orc--overstable
175 Star Boss--straight with good finish
175 Champ Boss--Long hyzers
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby discspeed » Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:42 pm

After all the discussion lately of line shaping I've decided to go one step further in the minimalist direction. I've taken out my fresh Meteor, fresh Stalker, and my Star Boss due to overlap that I as the thrower should be compensating for. 11 discs: 7 versatile molds, 2 utility molds, and doubles of my 3 primary discs (Voodoo, Buzzz, Orc). Now their under control...Now they do what I tell them.
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby discspeed » Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:39 am

If I were to rock an all Discraft bag I would be carrying:

Focus
Meteor
Buzzz
Stalker
Predator
Surge (reg and SS)
Force

That would be a solid bag.
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby inthedrift » Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:34 am

discspeed wrote:If I were to rock an all Discraft bag I would be carrying:

Focus
Meteor
Buzzz
Stalker
Predator
Surge (reg and SS)
Force

That would be a solid bag.


Change the Meteor for a Wasp and the Stalker for a Cyclone and I'd rock it.
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby discspeed » Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:39 pm

inthedrift wrote:
discspeed wrote:If I were to rock an all Discraft bag I would be carrying:

Focus
Meteor
Buzzz
Stalker
Predator
Surge (reg and SS)
Force

That would be a solid bag.


Change the Meteor for a Wasp and the Stalker for a Cyclone and I'd rock it.


The Wasp is useless to me. I've carried one and the Buzzz does everything better for me. The Buzzz does not fly well on turnover shots though, and that's where the Meteor shines. The Meteor is the best mid to come out since the Buzzz, and since the Buzzz is in a way derived from the Roc, the Meteor is the best original mid to come out since the Roc imo. Everyone used to throw Cyclones, so its funny to me that now the only people throwing them are people that never tried them before. There's a lot of better discs out there imo, including the Stalker, that can work well in calm and wind. The Cyclone is not good in the wind and takes too much height to work.
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby black udder » Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:24 pm

I just took the wasp out of my bag after the one time I reached for it depending on a fade and it went damn straight without any fade. There was some headwind, but I've found that I can cover most of those shots now with a fairway driver or the buzz.
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby discspeed » Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:42 pm

black udder wrote:I just took the wasp out of my bag after the one time I reached for it depending on a fade and it went damn straight without any fade. There was some headwind, but I've found that I can cover most of those shots now with a fairway driver or the buzz.


Exactly. If its too windy for the Buzzz, its too windy for the Wasp, and its time to beef up to something more aerodynamic altogether. Wind affects the Wasp's range and line, where it only really affects the Buzzz's line. Throwing the Buzzz hyzer with the nose down it is pretty easy to predict and control in moderate wind. This is a skill that does not come easily or early to many golfers, so we see thread after thread about overstable mids. I don't think its too wise to throw ANY mid perfectly flat into a moderate headwind (even the overstable ones will fail at some point, and wind is often gusty and difficult to predict). Like the Wasp, beaded or really blunt nosed mids will have their range significantly affected by wind even if they hold the line.
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby Spinach D » Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:54 am

discspeed wrote:If I were to rock an all Discraft bag I would be carrying:

Focus
Meteor
Buzzz
Stalker
Predator
Surge (reg and SS)
Force

That would be a solid bag.


...but what would you putt with?
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby Timko » Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:01 am

Spinach D wrote:
discspeed wrote:If I were to rock an all Discraft bag I would be carrying:

Focus
Meteor
Buzzz
Stalker
Predator
Surge (reg and SS)
Force

That would be a solid bag.


...but what would you putt with?


The Focus is Discraft's new Ace Race putter.
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby discspeed » Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:01 am

Spinach D wrote:
discspeed wrote:If I were to rock an all Discraft bag I would be carrying:

Focus
Meteor
Buzzz
Stalker
Predator
Surge (reg and SS)
Force

That would be a solid bag.


...but what would you putt with?
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby Spinach D » Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:51 am

I guess I havnt been "focused" on new releases.
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby discspeed » Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:43 am

Here's where I'm at currently:

174 proto Organic Voodoo--Putt and approach
175 FR Soft Voodoo--backup putter
174 Proto S Voodoo--M stiffness for throwing

177 ESP Meteor--beat for turnovers and rollers
176 ESP Meteor--new for straight and turning shots/gets a lot of throws these days
177 Glow Z Buzzz--workhorse mid for stable shots
177 Z Buzzz (opaque blue w/tourney stamp)--Overstable--Buzzz speed with Roc line for wind

175 FR Z Stalker--versatile for all kinds of shots
175 11x Champ Eagle X--hyzers and flex shots
174 11x Champ Firebird--forehand approaches, wind, thumbers, FH rollers

174 Champ Monarch--big tailwind D, turnover utility, and roller
175 Champ Orc--medium dome/stiffness, slightly high speed understable for controlled D
175 Champ Orc--Stiff and domey (stabilized?) for great HSS and much less LSS than my Boss
175 Champ Boss--Stiff and domey (FR DF)monster hyzers, wind D


Most of these molds have been in my bag for 100+ rounds now...that's got to be a record for me. The exceptions being the Stalker/EX which I've thrown enough to be pretty comfy with at this point. This is my tightest setup to date and depends on me to control flights with my release angles while still providing me with a variety of speeds/stabilities to execute any shot across all but the most extreme wind conditions. If it were really blowing I'd probably add another Boss or two and a Star Max.
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby discspeed » Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:39 pm

Here's where I'm at currently:

174 proto Organic Voodoo--Putt and approach
175 FR Soft Voodoo--backup putter
174 Proto S Voodoo--M stiffness for throwing

177 ESP Meteor--beat for turnovers and rollers
176 ESP Meteor--new for straight and turning shots/gets a lot of throws these days
177 Glow Z Buzzz--workhorse mid for stable shots
177 Z Buzzz (opaque blue w/tourney stamp)--Overstable--Buzzz speed with Roc line for wind

175 FR Z Stalker--versatile for all kinds of shots
175 11x Champ Eagle X--hyzers and flex shots
174 11x Champ Firebird--forehand approaches, wind, thumbers, FH rollers

174 Champ Monarch--really flippy for rollers, hyzer flips, and xtreme tailwind
175 Champ Monarch--somewhat stable for hyzer flips that hold, turnovers, pwr rollers
173 Champ Orc--got it back from the lake, longer, straighter, and easier to throw
175 Champ Orc--medium dome/stiffness, slightly high speed understable for controlled D
175 Champ Orc--Stiff and domey (stabilized?) for great HSS and much less LSS than my Boss
175 FR ESP Force--Power line drives, hyzers
175 Z Force--headwinds and pwr hyzers


I'm probably going to work some of those D drivers out this week. With the addition of the Force, my Monarch getting uber flippy, and the return of my fav. Orc I've got some decisions to make.
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby discspeed » Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:49 pm

I guess the symmetry of my sig is totally shot now...I might have to alter it.
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby discspeed » Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:41 am

Here's where I'm at currently:

174 proto Organic Voodoo--short putts, understable drives
172 SS Voodoo--long putts and short runs/approaches
175 proto Organic Voodoo--longer approach/driving


177 ESP Meteor--beat for turnovers and rollers
177 Glow Z Buzzz--workhorse mid for stable shots
180 Proline Aftershock--hyzer and wind mid

175 FR Z Stalker--seasoned and versatile for all kinds of shots
175 FR Z Stalker--new and overstable
175 11x Champ Eagle X--hyzers and flex shots
174 11x Champ Firebird--forehand approaches, wind, thumbers, FH rollers

175 Opaque Champ Valk--low ceilings, straight and turnover drives
175 Champ Orc--medium dome/stiffness, slightly high speed understable for controlled D
175 Champ Katana--Super fast straight D driver
175 Pro Boss--fairly overstable D driver
175 Star Boss--very overstable for pure hyzers and wind
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