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Re: Maxing out @ 300ft...

Postby masterbeato » Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:29 am

is one of the differences between 430' and 480' the release point is out further?
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Re: Maxing out @ 300ft...

Postby Blake_T » Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:36 am

no.

if the towel swings around instead of snapping outward it means the acceleration isn't happening.
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Re: Maxing out @ 300ft...

Postby Blake_T » Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:57 am

here's a video i encoded of Tomas Ekstrom from the 1993 worlds video. the jump cut editing makes it tough to really see all of the form, but this is the root of swedish technique.


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Re: Maxing out @ 300ft...

Postby MrScoopa » Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:23 am

Ah ha! I like that observation with the towel Blake! Coincidently when you do that with enough speed you also get that clean sounding for lack of a better word "snap" - not the sluggish "whoosh". What is even neater is that you can do that with slower speed NOT get the sound but if the positions are right you can still see you are accelerating! The towel will point out and still smack the wall etc... Did I mention neat?
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Re: Maxing out @ 300ft...

Postby Toomes » Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:53 am

Since I'm snowed in and needed something to do, I'm filming myself trying to snap a towel. I've always had trouble doing this and I want some suggestions on how to fix it. I'll get the high speed vids up soon.
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Re: Maxing out @ 300ft...

Postby Mason65 » Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:58 am

Is that the same Tomas of L64?? That hair is epic!
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Re: Maxing out @ 300ft...

Postby Toomes » Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:18 am

DCC wrote:Since I'm snowed in and needed something to do, I'm filming myself trying to snap a towel. I've always had trouble doing this and I want some suggestions on how to fix it. I'll get the high speed vids up soon.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtOM2oayviY
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Re: Maxing out @ 300ft...

Postby black udder » Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:23 am

Try not turning your shoulders around until you get into the right pec area. You're coming around too far and opening up so you don't get the tight pull. You could practice slowly just doing right pec type stuff without turning your shoulder, but do it slow and not fully so you don't hyper extend your elbow.

Shoot for pulling hard out of the right pec position and stopping your elbow sooner. Looked like the elbow went right past your target.
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Re: Maxing out @ 300ft...

Postby Blake_T » Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:12 pm

Since I'm snowed in and needed something to do, I'm filming myself trying to snap a towel. I've always had trouble doing this and I want some suggestions on how to fix it. I'll get the high speed vids up soon.


you have no pause in rotation to trigger the elbow extension.
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Re: Maxing out @ 300ft...

Postby keltik » Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:26 pm

mason65 wrote:Is that the same Tomas of L64?? That head band is epic!


fixed that for ya
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Re: Maxing out @ 300ft...

Postby Toomes » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:01 pm

Blake_T wrote:
Since I'm snowed in and needed something to do, I'm filming myself trying to snap a towel. I've always had trouble doing this and I want some suggestions on how to fix it. I'll get the high speed vids up soon.


you have no pause in rotation to trigger the elbow extension.


I'll work on this. It just feels unnatural to me to have the pause in my rotation. I understand why it should be there, I just don't feel fluid doing it.
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Re: Maxing out @ 300ft...

Postby Blake_T » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:04 pm

you have fluidity going into the power zone, but not fluidity going through the power zone.

the goal of the towel drill is to get the towel to snap correctly, not to just use your standard throw. get the correct snap and trace it backwards (work from the hit back) to your form so that your form will yield the correct snap.

i figured at least 50% (probably more like 80%) would have the exact same problem.
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Re: Maxing out @ 300ft...

Postby Toomes » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:18 pm

So, I should be able to snap a towel just doing the right pec drill, correct?
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Re: Maxing out @ 300ft...

Postby Blake_T » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:20 pm

first try and just snap the towel.

gradually add more and more while still being able to get the towel to snap correctly.
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Re: Maxing out @ 300ft...

Postby keltik » Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:41 pm

eh what the hell....I cooked this up this morning with help from the Grand Yoda himself (Blake)
it's a diagram of the American style swing. i broke it down into six different positions.

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1. turn the hips
2. turn the shoulders to perpendicular to the target & slide the disc to right pec area
3. stop the elbow and begin forearm rotation
4. skateboard kick the back leg & allow the heel to pivot
5. rotate shoulders and allow weight to come forward
6. follow through

I now accept all complaints and rotten tomatoes.
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