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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby discspeed » Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:03 am

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discspeed wrote:Put Katana back in...I tried to replace it with the Pro Boss...but that disc just couldn't do what the Katana does.


What did the pro boss lack for you? I put a champ katana back in after messing with a beat pro boss and what got me to put the katana back in was the difference in lss, even my beat pro boss would hyzer out and skip more than the katana for me.


Yes. The LSS, cruising speed, and squirreliness.
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby discspeed » Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:24 pm

Here's what I'm rocking currently...My Buzzzes are taking a break, but not going anywhere.

174 red SS Organic Voodoo--This has become my main putter. I love the feel of these.
174 M (rubbery h/s blend) Voodoo--purposfully beaten for understable/hyzer flip drives
175 M (rubbery h/s blend) Voodoo--stable drives

177 ESP Meteor--beat for turnovers and rollers
177 ESP Meteor--new for straight or slight turnover shots
178 Proline Aftershock--seasoning for straight to slightly overstable shot
178 Sparkle Z Aftershock--Very versatile overstable mid
180 Proline Aftershock--Seriously overstable for wind and hard hyzers

174 FR Z Stalker--seasoned and versatile for all kinds of shots
175 Z Stalker--Truest driver ever...no turn, fade, and holds any line
176 FR Z Stalker--new and overstable
175 XXX--overstable utility, wind, thumbers

174 P-PD--seasoned--flips a bit then holds any line
175 S-PD--primary hyzer driver, flex shots, wind
174 Opto Halo--Versatile distance driver

I'll probably be messing around with some more Opto Halos and have a more or less stable on in my bag, but honestly the one I have can do it all pretty damn well. I just realized that this is by far my most minimalistic setup to date. 6 primary molds + 1 utility disc (XXX).
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby discspeed » Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:55 am

After 3 rounds sans Buzzz...Its just not disc golf without the Buzzz in my bag. The Aftershock is a nice overstable midrange, but I don't have to experiment to KNOW it will never fly straight like my Buzzz.

174 red SS Organic Voodoo--This has become my main putter. I love the feel of these.
174 M (rubbery h/s blend) Voodoo--purposfully beaten for understable/hyzer flip drives
175 M (rubbery h/s blend) Voodoo--stable drives

177 ESP Meteor--beat for turnovers and rollers
177 ESP Meteor--new for straight or slight turnover shots
178 Glo Z Buzzz--Stable shots
178 Sparkle Z Aftershock--Very versatile overstable mid
180 Proline Aftershock--Seriously overstable for wind and hard hyzers

174 FR Z Stalker--seasoned and versatile for all kinds of shots
175 Z Stalker--Truest driver ever...no turn, fade, and holds any line
176 FR Z Stalker--new and overstable
175 XXX--overstable utility, wind, thumbers

174 P-PD--seasoned--flips a bit then holds any line
175 S-PD--primary hyzer driver, flex shots, wind
174 Opto Halo--Versatile distance driver
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby discspeed » Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:50 pm

Aftershock is no longer being carried around. I just barely use it with my Buzzz in the bag. Its been relegated to the car, so if it gets real windy at a particular course I could still break it out. I just can't justify carrying a disc around that I use once every 300 shots or so.

174 red SS Organic Voodoo--This has become my main putter. I love the feel of these.
174 M Voodoo--purposfully beaten for understable/hyzer flip drives
175 M Voodoo--straight now
175 M Voodoo--new and overstable

177 ESP Meteor--beat for turnovers and rollers
177 ESP Meteor--new for straight or slight turnover shots
177 Glo Z Buzzz--Stable workhorse mid (the best disc ever)

174 FR Z Stalker--seasoned and versatile for all kinds of shots
171.5 Glo Stalker--longest flying Stalker, hyzer flips and holds
175 Z Stalker--Truest driver ever...no turn, fade, and holds any line
176 FR Z Stalker--new and overstable
175 XXX--overstable utility, wind, thumbers

174 P-PD--seasoned--flips a bit then holds any line
175 S-PD--primary hyzer driver, flex shots, wind
174 Opto Halo--Versatile distance driver
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby JR » Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:38 am

That is why my windy weather bag is slightly different to calm weather bag. I only carry a few discs though. I could carry everything if my back wouldn't ache from the heavy rucksack/bench combo and discs. I mostly play with 6-8 discs in the bag. I modify selection based on weather report. That's thus far. P and S PDs may change that along with the slew of Roc variants I auditioned. Star Rancho helps in the wind RW-Pro ain't bad either. Progress hopefully :-) I can't really tell until the snow melts but I think things are getting better for me. Rhyno and Spike for different drives and putting with the Spike except in nasty winds.
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby discspeed » Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:05 pm

Today there were a couple of times where I missed my Aftershock...I think I'm gonna keep the Z one around for a bit because its a really nice disc and makes some things easier. I don't know how I'm going to smooth it over with my Buzzz though...its like talking your wife into polygamy. Live the principle baby! (for those of you who watch Big Love) :lol:
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby discspeed » Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:30 am

I don't see any of these molds changing. Someone please make fun of me if they do.

174 red SS Organic Voodoo--This has become my main putter. I love the feel of these.
174 M (rubbery h/s blend) Voodoo--purposfully beaten for understable/hyzer flip drives
175 M (rubbery h/s blend) Voodoo--stable drives

177 ESP Meteor--beat for turnovers and rollers
177 ESP Meteor--new for straight or slight turnover shots
178 Glo Z Buzzz--Stable shots
178 Sparkle Z Aftershock--Very versatile overstable mid

174 FR Z Stalker--seasoned and versatile for all kinds of shots...Lost HSS, but retains LSS
171 Glo Stalker--Flips a bit and holds...Very versatile
175 Z Stalker--Truest driver ever...no turn, fade, and holds any line
176 FR Z Stalker--new and overstable
175 XXX--overstable utility, wind, thumbers

174 P-PD--seasoned--flips a bit then holds any line
175 S-PD--primary hyzer driver, flex shots, wind
174 Opto Halo--Versatile distance driver
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby discspeed » Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:29 pm

I'm trying out an X Buzzz in place of my newish Meteor.

174 red SS Organic Voodoo--This has become my main putter. I love the feel of these.
174 M (rubbery h/s blend) Voodoo--purposfully beaten for understable/hyzer flip drives
175 M (rubbery h/s blend) Voodoo--stable drives

177 ESP Meteor--beat for turnovers and rollers
176 X Buzzz--straight or slight turnover shots
178 Glo Z Buzzz--Stable shots
178 Sparkle Z Aftershock--Very versatile overstable mid

174 FR Z Stalker--seasoned and versatile for all kinds of shots...Lost HSS, but retains LSS
171 Glo Stalker--Flips a bit and holds...Very versatile
176 FR Z Stalker--new and overstable
175 XXX--overstable utility, wind, thumbers

174 P-PD--seasoned--flips a bit then holds any line
175 S-PD--primary hyzer driver, flex shots, wind
174 Opto Halo--Broken in, versatile distance driver
174 Opto Halo--New, more overstable
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby discspeed » Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:03 am

After a couple of dozen rounds without touching the Aftershock, and one really windy day where it flipped like an SOB, I have no real reason to keep carrying it around. My short affair with the overstable mid is over once again. I return to my previous philosophy that they are useless. I added the Ion and Nuke as I'm giving them some extended testing.

174 red SS Organic Voodoo--This has become my main putter. I love the feel of these.
175 M (rubbery blend) Voodoo--windy putting
174 green Ion--All putter driving duties

177 ESP Meteor--beat for turnovers and rollers
176 X Buzzz--straight or slight turnover shots
178 Glo Z Buzzz--Stable shots

174 FR Z Stalker--seasoned and versatile for all kinds of shots...Lost HSS, but retains LSS
171 Glo Stalker--Flips a bit and holds...Very versatile
176 FR Z Stalker--new and overstable
175 XXX--overstable utility, wind, thumbers

174 P-PD--seasoned--flips a bit then holds any line
175 S-PD--primary hyzer driver, flex shots, wind
174 Opto Halo--Broken in, versatile distance driver
174 Opto Halo--New, more overstable
174 ESP Nuke (production)--pure, unadulterated D
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby victorb » Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:05 am

Mike, would you say that the Drone is more useful for what you were wanting to use an aftershock for?
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby Danforth » Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:38 am

victorb wrote:Mike, would you say that the Drone is more useful for what you were wanting to use an aftershock for?


I'd second that. Try to hunt down some Z Drones if there's still some available. D Drones aren't too bad either. I've never thrown the FLX, but I suspect since they lack any dome, that they have even lsee glide than what the D Drone doesn't have in the first place. I could be completely wrong on this though.
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby Timko » Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:00 am

I would assume he uses the XXX where people would throw a Drone. An Aftershock is more of a throw hard, straight than fade disc. The Drone is a throw hard, fade, then fade disc. There are some straigher Z runs, but why look for a particular run when there's a mold that flies the way you want to?
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby JR » Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:39 pm

I've heard the Aftershock being compared to KC Rocs which is very respectable since that is my fave mid when cold weather doesn't make it too slippy for me. I've never heard distance comparisons of aftershocks vs KC Rocs. Which flies farther and how much? Where do Squalls fit in the picture if we take the straighter Squalls as a comparison? Longer than Aftershocks and KCs with less HSS and LSS I gather from hearsay? That D would seriously overlap Stalker probably with less HSS? I've considered each of these discs for test except the Aftershock bu I may need to add that to the list. Thanks for comments and sorry for the derail.
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby Frank Delicious » Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:15 pm

Aftershocks are faster and can be longer than a kc roc.
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Re: Discspeed's Bag

Postby discspeed » Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:46 pm

Damn, I thought posting my bag was kind of like casting a stone into the ocean...I never expect much feedback, let alone a multiple post discussion! :lol:

Anyway, the only thing I wanted from the Aftershock was slightly more overstable Buzzz-type behavior. When the wind really gets going, all stable to slightly overstable mids fly the same. Rocs, Aftershocks, _________, etc all flip and go straight. I played on a really windy day and my Aftershocks flew exactly like my Buzzzes did on the same day when I gave them a bit more hyzer. So basically, I can put hyzer on my Buzzz and always make it fly as stable as any other straightish mid without having any other ones in my bag. I always come back to this...why do I need to learn it again and again? Bottom line is, all stable mids overlap with the Buzzz, and I don't need them.

Drone and other overstable mids make no sense to me. Why would I want a mid to fly overstable when it can NEVER do it as well as a more aerodynamic driver? Plus, whether or not they flip, the wind always fucks with a blunt disc more than a thinner profiled one. Timko was right, XXX all the way for mid distance in heavy winds.
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