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First Dye, and Thanks..

Postby ErinH » Mon May 10, 2010 3:47 pm

Just finished my first disc and I'm hooked. Tons of fun. Thanks to all you guys for all the shared information.
The disc is a Boss and hand cut with vinyl.
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Re: First Dye, and Thanks..

Postby Jeronimo » Mon May 10, 2010 3:48 pm

Very Zen. I like it.
I am dumb.

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Re: First Dye, and Thanks..

Postby tito » Mon May 10, 2010 4:17 pm

oooh that's niice!

you have inspired me to want to do some more vinyl cutting in addition to my spin dyes.
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Re: First Dye, and Thanks..

Postby ChUcK » Sun May 16, 2010 1:52 am

Is that a cypress tree? Nice job starting at the roots of dyeing, very professional first attempt. You obviously did your homework before venturing forth.
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Re: First Dye, and Thanks..

Postby koffee » Sun May 16, 2010 1:57 am

To quote Paris Hilton "Thats Hot"!!

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Re: First Dye, and Thanks..

Postby ErinH » Mon May 17, 2010 10:30 pm

Thanks for the comments. Chuck, your video was what really got me going in the right direction. I have done a couple more discs now using two colors and they came out pretty cool I'll post photos tomorrow. QUESTION: I just dyed a crystal clear X-out Boss and it just didn't do a very nice job of accepting the dye. I had the crimson dye hot enough to steam, and the disc sat in the pot for 45 min's and still isn't very red...
Do clear discs dye poorly? The black also did not get dark. Any ideas?
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Re: First Dye, and Thanks..

Postby JR » Tue May 18, 2010 12:42 am

Hi and welcome. I like the design. Does your family name happen to be Hemmings?
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Re: First Dye, and Thanks..

Postby ErinH » Tue May 18, 2010 9:51 am

Thanks JR, and yep that's me. Are you a distance thrower?
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Re: First Dye, and Thanks..

Postby ChUcK » Tue May 18, 2010 11:46 am

I can't decide about the clear vs. opaque argument. It may be that Z/Opto blends don't accept dye molecules as well as ESP/Goldline blends, but it may also be that the opaque discs have a backdrop that contrasts the dyed parts and makes them appear darker/brighter even though the same amount of dye has been transferred to the plastic. A good way to test this could be to weigh the disc before and after with a super-sensitive scale.

Either way, I recommend to make your dyebath more concentrated instead of cranking up the heat. Hotter dye should be your last resort troubleshooting, as it can really turn a good dye to shit in 4.7 seconds.
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Re: First Dye, and Thanks..

Postby ErinH » Tue May 18, 2010 2:37 pm

Here are photos of dye #2 and #3. The Aerobie dye had problems. Both the crimson and black dyed did not seem to take well and both seem a little blotchy. The rit concentration was one packet to three cups water-so pretty high. Anyone else have any luck getting vivid colors on clear champion plastic? The Wright Brothers disc is taken from an old photo of their first glider tests.

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Re: First Dye, and Thanks..

Postby eky8 » Tue May 18, 2010 7:49 pm

Really like that aerobie dye. Very cool idea.
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Re: First Dye, and Thanks..

Postby Booter » Tue May 18, 2010 8:16 pm

agreed. that aerobie dye is nice.
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Re: First Dye, and Thanks..

Postby stoneman » Tue May 18, 2010 10:06 pm

Niiiiice. All 3.
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Re: First Dye, and Thanks..

Postby JR » Tue May 18, 2010 11:02 pm

ErinH wrote:Thanks JR, and yep that's me. Are you a distance thrower?


Yeah a short distance at that :-D But I follow D event results eagerly. Not much over 400' on low line drives at sea level in calm conditions. I'm recuperating from multiple injuries and have only just gotten healthy enough to up dumbells to 22 pounds and over 20 reps so I'm still seeing results from muscle atrophy from a surgically operated busted throwing arm.

I like to throw hyzer flips to flat with Roadrunners and hate it when people on this board say that primo plastic can't beat the world distance record. So thank you thank you thank you very much for almost proving them wrong with that 245 meter toss :-D Do you remember how high the throw was? I have another thing to thank you for. The disassembled power ball/disc thingy speed/spin chart was posted here and was very interesting. That Ripley's believe it or not was fun too and brought a lot of TV exposure to disc sports at a time when disc sports weren't as well known and even less covered. Those are the reasons why I've always viewed you as one of the greatest disc sports figures of all time and a great ambassador. Not to mention the Aerobie Pro Ring distance world record :-)

Somebody mentioned that you were building a throwing machine that had independently adjustable launch speed and spin rate controls. Did it work and if it did what kind of results have you seen? See Blake_t was earlier of the opinion that high spin levels added significant D but has since changed his opinion to speed being more important. I'd like to see average results and if there are anomalies in either direction of distance with more or less spin at constant speeds. And what spin does to distance at different speeds.

Moderators: Erin needs a new custom rank. Like I throw faaaarther than you. The only member that's thrown farther than him is Avery Jenkins and unlike Erin that wasn't in competition.
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Re: First Dye, and Thanks..

Postby ErinH » Thu May 20, 2010 2:30 pm

Dang, I think we all fear having to go lefty with a broken throwing arm. Are you throwing 400' while recuperating? If so that's damn good. A flat 400' should translate to 550' in the desert with the right throw.

I'm stoked to hear that someone found the disc spin test interesting.
The disc gun is in pieces and is not finished. The machine is mostly completed and test firing proved it capable of launching 90+ mph. The difficult part is holding and releasing a spinning disc, although it is definitely possible. I swear after my house/shop are finished I'm on it!!

As far as distance throwing, most any throw over 700' has to apex somewhere near 50'. My last Big-D I was throwing star RR's and was throwing them very high, I would say at least 65'. The less stable your disc is the higher you can successfully set your launch angle. Oh and to correct you, I have only thrown 228 meters in competition. A few weeks ago I set my own personal record at 243m with another throw at 241m. I tried to "upgrade" to Katanas, but the RR outperformed.

BTW, I did not see the Ripley's TV bit, what was that about?
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