uNicedmeMan wrote:Science and religion both limit creative thinking in the same way. They offer an "answer" to certain problems/thoughts/situations and often times the thought process ends there (because the bible says so / because science proves so). This is not to say that nothing good comes from either place but I think it's wise to never believe something 100% and inversely, never dismiss something 100%.
I don't agree with this. Science is based on continually questioning everything we seem to "know", and no true scientist will claim infallibility on any subject. Your statement fits only those people who view science as a religion in itself.
Take Bertrand Russell for example, who wasn't happy with established mathematic principles because they used circular logic all over the place. So he decided to start from the bottom and managed to prove that 1+1 equals 2, among other things. Mathematics and other sciences were based on those assumptions and even leading mathematicians just said "because that's how it is", and still there were others we questioned this and set to find out the real truth. Imagine if they'd found out it isn't necessarily so? This is the ace up science's sleeve. It continually questions itself and tries to improve.
People are people however, and scientist can be just as small-minded and bigoted as religious people.
What bothers me about religion is that it doesn't really supply anything. Every good thing religion gives us could just as well be handled out of religious context, and often even better because we wouldn't have to worry about "word of god". Feeding 3rd world orphans and providing schools is a GREAT thing. Especially education is an excellent thing, and sorely needed there. But the same people also hurt the 3rd world (church's stand on condoms not helping at all with the AIDS problem, among other things). I'd rather have the people helping not be bound by religious dogma. In short, I'm not questioning that some Jesus people do good things. I just think that there is no need for them to be Jesus people to do those things. The flipside of religions is that while they have some very good orders, they also have absolutely ghastly ones as well, and depending on who (which sect, religion, etc.) you listen to those are just as important as the good ones, and you end up stoning people in between feeding the homeless.
Christianity makes for a fantastic philosophy (well, the new testament at least), but it makes for a HORRIBLE religion.