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Is this a foot fault? foot placement when putting question

Postby Pwingles » Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:11 pm

I have a question regarding your foot placement behind your mini when putting. On a normal putt, no stepthrough/puttjump, where does your foot have to be in relation to the mini/marker?
I was under the impression that you had some sort of triangle from the middle of your lie, back however many inches and to either side however many inches. Im not clear on if thats true, and if it is, what amount of space is allowed ( i believe its like a foot or 11 inches is what someone told me).

In league the other day I was straddle putting, here is a crude diagram of where my feet were placed.

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is this legal?
My right foot is about 4-6 inches behind the mini, left is staggered back a bit more, i was warned for a foot fault, can i do this or no?

to clarify the debate was whether one foot had to be directly behind the mini or if i had the triangle.
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Re: Is this a foot fault? foot placement when putting questi

Postby discraft » Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:22 pm

803.04 Stance, Subsequent to Teeing Off
A. When the disc is released, a player must:
(1) Have at least one supporting point that is in contact with the playing surface on the line of play and within 30 centimeters directly behind the marker disc.
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Re: Is this a foot fault? foot placement when putting questi

Postby Dig It » Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:34 pm

Roc Lover wrote:I have a question regarding your foot placement behind your mini when putting. On a normal putt, no stepthrough/puttjump, where does your foot have to be in relation to the mini/marker?
I was under the impression that you had some sort of triangle from the middle of your lie, back however many inches and to either side however many inches. Im not clear on if thats true, and if it is, what amount of space is allowed ( i believe its like a foot or 11 inches is what someone told me).

In league the other day I was straddle putting, here is a crude diagram of where my feet were placed.

-----o--------
[]-----[]

is this legal?
My right foot is about 4-6 inches behind the mini, left is staggered back a bit more, i was warned for a foot fault, can i do this or no?

to clarify the debate was whether one foot had to be directly behind the mini or if i had the triangle.

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Re: Is this a foot fault? foot placement when putting questi

Postby Chuck Kennedy » Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:37 pm

Lots of new tournament players think they just need to have both feet farther from the basket than the marker on a straddle (or any) putt. The reality is you have to have one or the other foot directly behind the marker per the rule posted above.
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Re: Is this a foot fault? foot placement when putting questi

Postby Pwingles » Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:57 pm

got it, does this mean from the center of the mini in relation to the center of my foot? or do either side edge of the mini and either side edge of my foot count as well (like it matters, but just to clarify)
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Re: Is this a foot fault? foot placement when putting questi

Postby Chuck Kennedy » Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:42 pm

Any part of your foot has to be on the line of play passing thru the center of the mini in line with the basket (or mando if there is one) within 30cm behind the back edge of the marker.
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Re: Is this a foot fault? foot placement when putting questi

Postby Dig It » Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:42 pm

Imma shut it and let Chuck handle this one. :lol:
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Re: Is this a foot fault? foot placement when putting questi

Postby Pwingles » Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:49 pm

that makes sense, thanks guys
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Re: Is this a foot fault? foot placement when putting questi

Postby Steady 26542 » Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:58 pm

discraft wrote:803.04 Stance, Subsequent to Teeing Off
A. When the disc is released, a player must:
(1) Have at least one supporting point that is in contact with the playing surface on the line of play and within 30 centimeters directly behind the marker disc.

And it doesn't have to be a foot either. You can have a knee or a toe or anything else touch the playing surface as long as it's on the line of play and within 30 cm.
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Re: Is this a foot fault? foot placement when putting questi

Postby Aubin » Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:29 pm

AND it has to stay there when you throw... you can't put your heel in line with the mini and then throw and go up on your toes, nor can you delicately place your toe on the mini line and then fall to the side. I see this all the time.
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Re: Is this a foot fault? foot placement when putting questi

Postby Thatdirtykid » Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:50 pm

Another misconception is that the point behind your marker has to be the closest point. IE a strattle putt where you are within the allowed distance behind your marker your other points of contact (knees hands foot) all must be behind the point of contact begind your lie, this would be illegal:

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Re: Is this a foot fault? foot placement when putting questi

Postby Apothecary » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:01 pm

Thatdirtykid wrote:Another misconception is that the point behind your marker has to be the closest point. IE a strattle putt where you are within the allowed distance behind your marker your other points of contact (knees hands foot) all must be behind the point of contact begind your lie, this would be illegal:

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wouldnt that stance be legal if the back foot was in line with the pin, closer than 30cm and the front foot was not closer to the pin than the mark?
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Re: Is this a foot fault? foot placement when putting questi

Postby Thatdirtykid » Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:20 am

thats where the common misconception is. The rules state "your closest contact point must be behind your marker" which means no contact point can be closer than the one behind your lie.
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Re: Is this a foot fault? foot placement when putting questi

Postby Chuck Kennedy » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:11 am

This is what the rule says regarding stance. Please indicate where your "closest contact point concept" is written in the rules. You may have any other contact point on the ground closer to the hole than your stance point on the LOP behind the mini as long as it's not closer to the hole than the rear edge of the mini just like the diagram being discussed in the posts just above yours.

803.04A. When the disc is released, a player must:
(1) Have at least one supporting point that is in contact with the playing surface on the line
of play and within 30 centimeters directly behind the marker disc (except as specified in
803.04 E); and,
(2) have no supporting point contact with the marker disc or any object closer to the hole than the rear edge of the marker disc; and,
(3) have all of his or her supporting points in-bounds.
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Re: Is this a foot fault? foot placement when putting questi

Postby Apothecary » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:47 am

ic. thanks for clearing that up.:)
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