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Re: boatman

Postby Booter » Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:57 pm

nope :( i didnt get a chance to snag one. i was hoping to but it just wasnt happening today. i have a tourney tomorrow so i wont b able to swing by. i might see if i can get one on sunday or something
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Re: boatman

Postby JR » Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:07 am

discspeed wrote:Looks a lot like a Flow with a slightly blunter nose. Damn. I love the PD2, but if I had something that felt just like my Flow only more overstable and in OPTO, I may have to go with it.

I know I'm risking pissing off the Finns here, but I have a REAL hard time believing that Lat64 doesn't have major input when Westside is engineering their molds. The similarities between Westside and Lat64 discs are too uncanny.


No data but i think the guy that runs Westside Discs has a masters degree in engineering. And it would not be wise to discount Tomas if he has advice. I'd think that there is more than a little at least consulting from Lat to Westside. No idea if this is the truth though.
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Re: boatman

Postby Dag » Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:23 pm

Took a 174g Boatman out to play today and was pleased with my first impression.

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Westside states that their VIP plastic is 'more than 98% similar' to Lat 64's Opto. Curious what the one point something difference is as I received some Lat 64 Diamonds in the same order that appear to be of an identical hue.

I'm on the low end of the power range for this disc (320' +/-20' reliable). Had a nice breezy (20 mph gusting to 25) day to trial the Boatman as my interest in it was for a wind disc even though it's large(r) diameter and domey. For comparison, I took with me a 168g VIP Northman, a 170g Opto Riot, a 175g C PD (BigD), and a 172g Opto Blitz. Relative stability was Blitz > C PD > Boatman > Riot > Northman, pretty much what I expected. The flight for me was probably closest to that of the C PD though the Boatman was a bit longer up and downwind at the risk of being a bit farther right than I was aiming. Never lost it to the right though, always came back given the height to do so. It'll be interesting to see what higher powered players make of this.
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Re: boatman

Postby Booter » Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:25 pm

well shit. i still plan on getting some boatman to try out but at this point im taking a break from golf for a knee injury. sucks to be me. fml
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Re: boatman

Postby zj1002 » Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:28 pm

I threw a couple of them today. 169g and 17?g(i forget). Both flew nearly identical. flight was very straight with a bit of fade at the end. basically held w/e line you put it on. it performed s-shots beautifully. Threw it flat in a headwind and it tracked right before fading. reminded me a lot of a PD(a straight one). most of the throws were done in a 25mph+ tailwind and returned in a headwind. it's a nice disc, but falls in a category already crowded by a shat ton of other discs. it's a straight thrower with some late fade, and for the most part doesn't like a headwind over 15mph+
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Re: boatman

Postby Booter » Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:32 pm

boo thats not what i wanted to hear whats a zj. throw a opto flow next to it tomorrow. a moderate domed pink one preferrably. then see how different those are for me
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Re: boatman

Postby zj1002 » Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:39 pm

we also have different styles but i'll give it a shot tomorrow. should be a very slow day.
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Re: boatman

Postby Booter » Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:45 pm

yea i know and u have about 9000 more power :shock:
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Re: boatman

Postby discspeed » Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:38 am

Yeah, I'm thinking that sounds good to me. If I remember correctly ZJ reviewed PD2s similarly to the Boatman and probably flips Flows pretty hard.
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Re: boatman

Postby zj1002 » Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:23 am

the boatman does have a good amount of control(or reliability w/e the preferred term is). it does what you tell it to do. if I throw it enough at the store, I could see myself picking up one when I got the funds
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Re: boatman

Postby zj1002 » Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:25 am

as for the PD2. I was throwing some straight P-PD2's. I actually have a stable P that is in my bag right now(Needed it for the hippodrome winds)
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Re: boatman

Postby zj1002 » Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:57 am

boatman is more stable than flow
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Re: boatman

Postby Booter » Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:16 am

ooo im gonna have to go get one
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Re: boatman

Postby zj1002 » Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:44 am

and i threw stable flows
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Re: boatman

Postby zj1002 » Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:45 am

we got goldline kings in as well
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