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Re: L64 Bolt

Postby jubuttib » Mon May 23, 2011 1:41 pm

Really? Looks more like almost zero flash, with the inside of the rim peeking out a bit.
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Re: L64 Bolt

Postby kern9787 » Mon May 23, 2011 1:54 pm

jubuttib wrote:Really? Looks more like almost zero flash, with the inside of the rim peeking out a bit.


Looks like this to me too. But I don't care anymore how it looks. How does it fly?
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Re: L64 Bolt

Postby Spike » Mon May 23, 2011 2:08 pm

jubuttib wrote:Really? Looks more like almost zero flash, with the inside of the rim peeking out a bit.
yeah, I see it that way too now.
kern9787 wrote:Looks like this to me too. But I don't care anymore how it looks. How does it fly?
flash IS about how it flies :wink:
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Re: L64 Bolt

Postby Jeronimo » Mon May 23, 2011 8:48 pm

jubuttib wrote:Really? Looks more like almost zero flash, with the inside of the rim peeking out a bit.


Hmmm, you might be right. Pic is too blurry to say for sure though
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Re: L64 Bolt

Postby Henri T. » Tue May 24, 2011 9:49 am

Jeronimo wrote:
jubuttib wrote:Really? Looks more like almost zero flash, with the inside of the rim peeking out a bit.


Hmmm, you might be right. Pic is too blurry to say for sure though


For me that looks like flash. Maybe El Kabong could tell us if there is the flash under the rim...
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Re: L64 Bolt

Postby Leopard » Tue May 24, 2011 11:01 am

i've handled dozens of these; flash is minimal. less than average. what little is there, isn't even on the true bottom of the rim, it's more like discraft's, up on the wing slightly. these feel and look great.
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Re: L64 Bolt

Postby Jeronimo » Tue May 24, 2011 11:57 am

Leopard wrote:i've handled dozens of these; flash is minimal. less than average. what little is there, isn't even on the true bottom of the rim, it's more like discraft's, up on the wing slightly. these feel and look great.

Well then... So much for that explanation on why the vast differences in opinion on how they fly.
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Re: L64 Bolt

Postby Smyith » Tue May 24, 2011 3:02 pm

i as well got my Bolt yday. the thing definitely goes far!!!! we had 15-20+mph winds today in mid afternoon. my first throw was with a slight hyzer in a R -> L cross wind. the disc flipped flat and just ran right. i retrieved it and then threw it back in a L -> R wind with the same release angle. it took off and held a slight turnover line but then as soon as it started to fade back it DIVE BOMBED! i couldnt believe it. after leagues the wind died down to almost nothing. so i tried it again. it flew real flat and straight and just cruised like all hell. easily 40-50ft of extra distance. i threw it a handful more times and all of them were just straight with a ton of glide and speed then a gentle fade left. im bummed that it ended up a turd in the wind but i still need to throw it more and get a better feel for the release angles in wind. i didnt get around to any headwind or tailwind shots. i will report tho. mine was a flat 170g and the colorshift is super a$$ sexy. the comparisons to the domey first run Flows (mine is 169g domey and pink...if anyone is interested its for sale 9.5/10) is very accurate. the Bolt also has a ton of rise to it, the disc essentially does all the work for you.

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Black line is no wind. ~400' distance
Red line is a significant R->L wind
Green line is a significant L->R wind

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Re: L64 Bolt

Postby khmer » Tue May 24, 2011 3:35 pm

I gave into temptation and bought one today, should get it by Friday. help me understand this. according to Lat. 64 web site, the bolt is suppose to be an understable halo with good glide. well, wouldn't that be called the havoc then? I throw a 163 gl halo and when I rip it and released it with hyzer, it'll stand, dart right and glide, then fade. My 167 gl halo will do the same but with a subtle turn. To me, when I read that it's an understable halo I immediately think of the havoc, b/c to me my gl halos are extremely similar to my gl havoc I own...maybe the havoc has a slight more glide during it's turn. so where is the bolt gonna fit in? will it be more understable than the havoc? I'm excited to test it out during the memorial day weekend or shortly after. and I may have it up for sale in the near future along with the havoc :D
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Re: L64 Bolt

Postby Smyith » Tue May 24, 2011 6:43 pm

honestly i think the Bolt is what they intended the Havoc to be. the havoc turned really hard and struggled to fade back. the Bolt seems to actual hold and maintain its line with some great glide. i think the halo is definitely alot beefier then the havoc. every halo if tried has held a stable HSS and had a significant LSS. both havocs i own might as well be rollers, they fly like road runners. im curious what the standard run of Bolts will be like...cause for no wind days im really liking this thing.
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Re: L64 Bolt

Postby jubuttib » Tue May 24, 2011 7:37 pm

The green and red lines look like they should be the opposite. I'd expect it to carry further to the right in a left->right crosswind than right->left, especially if you're RHBH.
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Re: L64 Bolt

Postby Smyith » Tue May 24, 2011 8:32 pm

jubuttib wrote:The green and red lines look like they should be the opposite. I'd expect it to carry further to the right in a left->right crosswind than right->left, especially if you're RHBH.


thats what i expected too and threw the shot with that intention. 3 other people had very similar results to that. i really do not know what to say...<shrug>
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Re: L64 Bolt

Postby Apothecary » Tue May 24, 2011 8:37 pm

Smyith wrote:honestly i think the Bolt is what they intended the Havoc to be. the havoc turned really hard and struggled to fade back. the Bolt seems to actual hold and maintain its line with some great glide. i think the halo is definitely alot beefier then the havoc. every halo if tried has held a stable HSS and had a significant LSS. both havocs i own might as well be rollers, they fly like road runners. im curious what the standard run of Bolts will be like...cause for no wind days im really liking this thing.


which kind of havoc? the gl are significantly more hss and lss than the optos.

early reports ive heard of the (gl color shift) bolt are its damn flippy. have yet to test one in the field.
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Re: L64 Bolt

Postby AltitudeDiscGolf » Tue May 24, 2011 8:51 pm

What Altitude says: This is a fast speed 13 disc (in comparison to other 13's). Throwing it backhand, we found it to be more understable than we initially thought it to be. It is pretty easy to flip. This disc has ridiculous glide and we were able to achieve huge distance with minimal effort.

Throwing it forehand, it showed slight signs of being understable, and was difficult to flip. It has a less of a fade on the forehand throw, but still showed great glide. Extremely easy to throw and get good distance with a low snap throw.

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Re: L64 Bolt

Postby Apothecary » Tue May 24, 2011 9:07 pm

AltitudeDiscGolf wrote:What Altitude says:


apoth says its retarded to talk in the third person.

AltitudeDiscGolf wrote:This is a fast speed 13 disc (in comparison to other 13's). Throwing it backhand, we found it to be more understable than we initially thought it to be. It is pretty easy to flip. This disc has ridiculous glide and we were able to achieve huge distance with minimal effort.

Throwing it forehand, it showed slight signs of being understable, and was difficult to flip.


i will never trust your disc critiques or buy from your shop because of this quote.

do you realize how contradictory that statement is? :x
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