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Re: Go with the FLOW

Postby Jeronimo » Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:17 am

I love it, Latitude takes the Opto's from domey(good) to flat (suck) and takes the Gold Lines from flat(suck) to domey(good).
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Re: Go with the FLOW

Postby emiller3 » Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:06 am

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emiller3 wrote:Flat = flippy


like bad flippy or only a lil flippy?

A lot flippy. But not squirely. At my high altitude, it's a good flippy. I'll be taking it to sea level next week, I suspect it'll be good for hyzer flip turnovers with some height but not much else.
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Re: Go with the FLOW

Postby discspeed » Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:55 am

Flat GL Fuses are definitely flippy, but they are my favorites. I use Buzzzes for most straight shots, so I want my Fuse to be purely understable. The flat GL gives me this stability as well as feeling a lot like my Buzzzes in the hand. Domey Fuses are much more Comet-like in stability and flight character.
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Re: Go with the FLOW

Postby emiller3 » Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:11 pm

discspeed, you're getting your Lat threads mixed up :wink:

As far as my bag goes, the new and seasoned Pro Destroyer are out, the E* Destroyer and Flow are back in, gonna see how much I like it. The Valk is still my distance driver for everything except wide open max D or hyzer max D.
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Re: Go with the FLOW

Postby Peot » Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:09 pm

171 GL Midnight Blue shift and a 172 poppy top Yellow Opto just arrived... testing these out alongside Champ/Star/DX Wraith and a SOLF. Any chance I could use both the Wraiths and Flows or is that excessive?
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Re: Go with the FLOW

Postby discspeed » Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:14 pm

Peot wrote:171 GL Midnight Blue shift and a 172 poppy top Yellow Opto just arrived... testing these out alongside Champ/Star/DX Wraith and a SOLF. Any chance I could use both the Wraiths and Flows or is that excessive?


They are pretty similar all around...Definitely in the same speed and stability class.
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Re: Go with the FLOW

Postby Peot » Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:30 pm

In my limited trial with one of these GL ones about a month ago, it has a notch more HSS, less LSS and a lot more glide than a Wraith. For someone who isn't ready for a Force/PD2 or something is a heavy, fresh premium plastic Wraith different enough from a Flow to be used in a more aggressive headwind?
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Re: Go with the FLOW

Postby what'shisname » Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:46 pm

Peot wrote:In my limited trial with one of these GL ones about a month ago, it has a notch more HSS, less LSS and a lot more glide than a Wraith. For someone who isn't ready for a Force/PD2 or something is a heavy, fresh premium plastic Wraith different enough from a Flow to be used in a more aggressive headwind?


I'm not overly familiar with Wraiths but I do throw Flows for distance and wouldn't throw an Opto Flow in to a heavy headwind and wouldn't even think about the GL Flow into the wind. The Opto Flow will handle a decent wind, but when faced with heavy headwind I'll usually disc down to a stable SPD or if it's really windy and I need Max D I'll pull out the C-PD2.
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Re: Go with the FLOW

Postby discspeed » Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:52 pm

what'shisname wrote:
Peot wrote:In my limited trial with one of these GL ones about a month ago, it has a notch more HSS, less LSS and a lot more glide than a Wraith. For someone who isn't ready for a Force/PD2 or something is a heavy, fresh premium plastic Wraith different enough from a Flow to be used in a more aggressive headwind?


I'm not overly familiar with Wraiths but I do throw Flows for distance and wouldn't throw an Opto Flow in to a heavy headwind and wouldn't even think about the GL Flow into the wind. The Opto Flow will handle a decent wind, but when faced with heavy headwind I'll usually disc down to a stable SPD or if it's really windy and I need Max D I'll pull out the C-PD2.


GL Flows are not inherently less HSS than Optos. I've had some domey GL Flows that actually penetrated the wind a little better than my optos...They were also 176g. All around the Flow is workable in 5-10mph headwinds, but not much more. This is not so different from the Wraith. There are runs of stiff, poppy top Star Wraiths that fare better into headwinds, but they are not easy to track down. If you have the arm for the Flow then you probably need something more stable to use for wind, and the same is true for the Wraith. Both are high speed turning drivers that fade late, and that's not necessarily a recipe for success in the wind.
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Re: Go with the FLOW

Postby Booter » Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:14 pm

My fresh domey optos can handle some wind but I use a aj destroyer when its too windy for my . Any windier than 20mph I usually bust out a flat cpd2
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Re: Go with the FLOW

Postby Peot » Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:48 pm

discspeed wrote:
what'shisname wrote:
Peot wrote:In my limited trial with one of these GL ones about a month ago, it has a notch more HSS, less LSS and a lot more glide than a Wraith. For someone who isn't ready for a Force/PD2 or something is a heavy, fresh premium plastic Wraith different enough from a Flow to be used in a more aggressive headwind?


I'm not overly familiar with Wraiths but I do throw Flows for distance and wouldn't throw an Opto Flow in to a heavy headwind and wouldn't even think about the GL Flow into the wind. The Opto Flow will handle a decent wind, but when faced with heavy headwind I'll usually disc down to a stable SPD or if it's really windy and I need Max D I'll pull out the C-PD2.


GL Flows are not inherently less HSS than Optos. I've had some domey GL Flows that actually penetrated the wind a little better than my optos...They were also 176g. All around the Flow is workable in 5-10mph headwinds, but not much more. This is not so different from the Wraith. There are runs of stiff, poppy top Star Wraiths that fare better into headwinds, but they are not easy to track down. If you have the arm for the Flow then you probably need something more stable to use for wind, and the same is true for the Wraith. Both are high speed turning drivers that fade late, and that's not necessarily a recipe for success in the wind.


Yeah. I never have any problem getting Flows up to speed. My GL I'd rate at a -2/1 and the Opto at a -1.5/1.5. I just got a 1.2 SOLF that I'm auditioning for my longer stable driver, and so far it's been easy to throw straight with a gradual, penetrating (I guess advertised) long fade. I think a Q might be better for stiffer winds, but I also had some success throwing a Z Pred for the first time today as well.
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Re: Go with the FLOW

Postby turso » Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:04 am

@Discspeed

Did the deflashing of the FR opto flows make em lose just LSS or both HSS and LSS?
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Re: Go with the FLOW

Postby discspeed » Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:13 am

turso wrote:@Discspeed

Did the deflashing of the FR opto flows make em lose just LSS or both HSS and LSS?


They lost both HSS and LSS, but the LSS was more noticeable.
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Re: Go with the FLOW

Postby Booter » Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:51 am

Anybody want to give up any opaque pink or yellow opto flows? :)
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Re: Go with the FLOW

Postby Jeronimo » Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:07 am

Booter wrote:Anybody want to give up any opaque pink or yellow opto flows? :)


Marshall St is drowning in those.

Actually, not sure about pinks... but yellows and blues for sure! The good opaques too, not the shitty clearish green/orange/pink flat top Flows that suck balls.
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