discspeed wrote:I've had a chance to put the GL and Opto Rivers (both 175) through their paces pretty well. They are both nice in their own ways, but they are very different.
The GL is working perfectly for me as my primary fairway driver. It is like a QJLS with a bit more glide, essentially making it more effortless with a bit more range. It transitions very slow and smooth and generally holds it's height well. It holds a turn easily and comes out at the end. On a flat/slight hyzer throw it flips flat with a glidey TB-like fade. I've also been able to throw it dead straight with very little fade on a very controlled flat release. Basically it flies like a dream...It's too bad I didn't get this disc when I first tested the River...
The Opto is a strange animal. It flies VERY similar to a straight-flying domey yellow Striker I had. It flies on the same general lines as the GL, but it's not smooth at all. Instead of easing into it's high speed turn it just seems to kind of pop up all of a sudden. While the fade is kind of late, it is very harsh with the disc getting almost vertical and spiking into the ground. It also seems to like to lift and get air bounces like a lot of really domey discs do. This adds to the feel of the glide, but at no point does the disc ever feel locked onto it's line. This disc also goes really far...Considering the speed at which it needs to be thrown not to fade excessively, this is a disc that needs 360'+ to get it's intended flight path. Out in the field I could crush this disc nose down and hyzer and get some huge hyzer flips...I was putting both well over 400' with a little wind behind me, though in more neutral wind conditions the Opto was going up to 20' farther.
Long story short...The orange GL River is in the bag. This is the disc I wanted the River to be when it came out. In terms of speed, glide, range, HSS, and LSS it is the perfect versatile fairway driver to stand alone in my bag and bridge the gap between mids and my PDs.
Albeit by chance and a desire to try something new, but this has been my feeling and observation with my 177g Blue Gold Line River since day one. It has never left the bag. I am more than glad you were willing to give it another try. When I picked it up on a lark when they first hit the shelves, I had no reason or idea why I picked one so heavy. Driving to the course, eyeing the disc the whole time as it sat in the seat next to me, I kept asking myself why did I purchase that one. I had a beat 165g Star Teebird that had claimed a beautiful ace a week earlier at BRP, why was I trying to replace that? I do not believe in wall-hangers unless it is a special disc to me and it is so trashed that it no longer flies. That Teebird still had a lot of life left in it. Yet after a drive on Hole 12 at Bryant Lake (MN), a little right, a little left, and parked under the basket with minimal effort, I was sold on the River.
However, I do like the Opto Rivers in winter. The colder, thinner air seems to tame what you observed in your throws. It has been four months since we had snow here, but if I remember correctly the Opto flies in winter like how the Gold Line flies in summer. At its coldest, I lose a lot of grip on all Gold Line plastics, but so much on Opto unlike other translucent plastics.
This is a picture of me driving on Blue Ribbon Pines #4 with my blue GL River. This disc is the only non-putter I would dare tee off with on this hole.
Same drive, different angle.