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American Vs. Sweedish?

Postby Crosseyed0811 » Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:17 pm

I think that's how I've seen it classified here. I think Blake specified the 2 driving techniques as the Sweedish version that uses leverage and such vs. the American version that's more snap... Then broke down the American version to Full Reach Back and Bent Elbow.

How does someone know which one works better for them? All I really see around here in instructional articles seems to be the American stuff. Where can I learn more about the Sweedish version to see how it works and see if it works better for me? Is there something here on the site that I'm missing?
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Re: American Vs. Sweedish?

Postby zj1002 » Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:26 pm

sweedish style is more like slapping a hockey stick. well sort of, but it the best image I can give you.

In the end with both forms you need snap in order to throw far. You will end up bending the elbow to some degree and you will need to open the wrist. The most important things(at the snap, with good timing) don't change with either style. You can create more leverage with the Swedish style but you still need to do the things at the right time
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Re: American Vs. Sweedish?

Postby JR » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:48 am

Three Swedes in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhQzVIX4cVs

Check out the other videos in the same channel as well for many more goodies. See how low the Swedes pull the disc? You can identify the Swedes by the low pull height. But each of them has a different style and only one of them uses the Skellefteå slap shot type left arm swing.
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Re: American Vs. Sweedish?

Postby Crosseyed0811 » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:52 am

zj1002 wrote:sweedish style is more like slapping a hockey stick. well sort of, but it the best image I can give you.

In the end with both forms you need snap in order to throw far. You will end up bending the elbow to some degree and you will need to open the wrist. The most important things(at the snap, with good timing) don't change with either style. You can create more leverage with the Swedish style but you still need to do the things at the right time


I understand that some things still have to be the same, but I also know if you're struggling to get a concept sometimes coming from a different direction will let things click.

Thanks for the vid JR, i'll check it out
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Re: American Vs. Sweedish?

Postby Blake_T » Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:56 pm

what zj wrote is pretty much it.

it's not the low pull line that's important, it's the swing plane of the shoulders that gives it a striking difference.
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Re: American Vs. Sweedish?

Postby Frank Delicious » Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:02 pm

JR wrote:Three Swedes in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhQzVIX4cVs

Check out the other videos in the same channel as well for many more goodies. See how low the Swedes pull the disc? You can identify the Swedes by the low pull height. But each of them has a different style and only one of them uses the Skellefteå slap shot type left arm swing.


dear lord, who is that in the first side by side with avery? looking at his plant leg and hip makes me hurt.
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Re: American Vs. Sweedish?

Postby JR » Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:06 pm

Frank it is the same guy in the first pair with Feldy. Markus Källström.

Blake i was just pointing out the Swedes not talking about form.
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Re: American Vs. Sweedish?

Postby Star Shark » Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:32 pm

Yeah, Markus does that dead stop and hard whip action there. It seems to work okay as he throws far :P, and has finished 2nd at worlds twice.
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Re: American Vs. Sweedish?

Postby pg043 » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:38 pm

the last pairing is probably the best one for seeing the difference (Doss & Lundmark)
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Re: American Vs. Sweedish?

Postby Sean40474 » Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:58 am

Star Shark wrote:Yeah, Markus does that dead stop and hard whip action there. It seems to work okay as he throws far :P, and has finished 2nd at worlds twice.


It almost seems like this trying to stop his momentum from moving forward like he is leaning back or something. The dude can crush though.
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