dehaas wrote:so the consensus is that the vip swords are a bit more hss and lss compared to the tournament ones? i've got a 169 colorshift that is starting to wear into a straighter disc and i'm digging its flight. i've also got a few gl flows in the 170 range and didn't know if people have been carrying both or if there is too much overlap to use both. the flow seems to fly like a bit faster and longer river, but a similar type of line for me. the sword seems a bit faster and more like workhorse distance driver.
The VIP Swords are a little more HSS and LSS than the Tourney when new, though the two plastics have broken in at the same rate for me. I suspect that the T will continue to break in and the VIP is going to stay how it is now for a long time. The other slight difference between the VIP and T Sword (mine are similar weight, dome, and PLH) is that the T glides a little more and the VIP takes torque a bit better. The difference is most obvious at the end of the flights where the T keeps it's height and forward flight and the VIP drops and fades earlier. Right now I carry a seasoned T, a seasoned VIP, and a newish VIP, and they all get thrown regularly. I pair them with a Quasar for strong head/crosswinds and hyzers/skip shots.
I straight up replaced my Flows with the Sword, and I throw the Sword for all of the shots that I used to throw the Flow for. To me they are essentially the same stability once broken in a little...Though it's hard to say because my Opto Flows were the early run, which were the super stiff and durable Opto plastic. New Flows and VIP Swords are made of the softer Opto, which is not as durable. The only thing the Flow did a little better for me was to hold a hyzer/finish hyzer, but again I would need a stiff Opto VIP Sword to test if this was a characteristic of the mold or the material..