Quick shoulder turn question

[Triflusal]

I just saw some video of my throw, and I noticed I turn my shoulders past 180 degrees (significantly past) in my reachback. I'm thinking this is not good, because when I look at videos of pros they only go ~180 degrees back. it might explain my occasional pulling to the left (LHBH). I'll try to illustrate it.

mine:

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Pros:

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(the horizontal line is the arm in it's reachback)

[seabas22]

I don't think it's necessarily bad, maybe makes timing a little harder. Watch Nikko or Will with their big shoulder turn.

[Triflusal]

yeah but my shoulders go even further back then nikkos in this video

EDIT: actually, they might be about the same as nikkos. the angle on this video is funky

[JHern]

It tends to develop early power, and generate early speed, which is not always the best thing if it is uncoordinated. Nevertheless, this is what you see a lot of throwers use on max distance throws.

[Triflusal]

im about where Will is when his reachback is at its furthest point.

[CatPredator]

It's largely based on your physiology. Posting the video of yourself would result in more useful advice than super crappy illustrations or comparisons to two of the best throwers in the world.

[JR]

Being overcommitted and greedy often leads me to turn my body early putting the left side in the way of the disc. I've got a bruise i did to myself on last Wednesday. Ouch. Turning more than 180 adds power and reduces accuracy and repeatability at least until you get accustomed to the form change and probably a little after that too. I think on average i gain about 10-13' from reaching back 190-200 degrees vs 180. I don't usually do more than 180 unless there is a lot of open space and there is a chance of shaving a stroke off the score.