cajual wrote:Mike; I wanted to ask you a question specifically. I have been watching the two videos that you posted more for educational reasons than critical and am curious about a few things.
First, in your footwork I notice your back is slightly oriented towards your target, as if you steps are at 135(R), 180(L), and 90(R) degrees with a straight and long reach back. I have also seen several players that take steps at 90(R), 135(L), and 90(R) that reach back more circular with a bent elbow (Seppo Paju comes to mind). My question is whether or not you find your throwing style to be more consistently accurate and controllable when it comes to minor finesse adjustments.
I have been moving back and forth between both throwing styles now since the beginning when I really started watching video in an attempt to hone my form into a balance between on demand distance and control, not necessarily both at the same time, but the ability to have either depending on the situation. I have found that when I use a quicker, shorter step that is more oriented perpendicular with a bent elbow reach back I have more accuracy and an easier time with nose down and release angles etc, but also that my distance suffers greatly.
On the contrary, I have found that when I throw more similar to you I have much greater distance but significantly less control. Part of me is curious if it is due to eye fixture and the fact it is removed from your line for such an extended period.
Have you had any similar problems or experiences? What have you learned to help balance your distance and power? You have a build similar to me, but slightly stronger it looks like. Tall, lean, athletic. Balance, arm speed, foot speed, etc are not issues for me. My problem right now is that I am trying TOO many things and not just throwing. I am kind of looking for that one tip that helps me bring it all together and get out of my head so to speak.
The footwork thing I started doing to make sure I got my body well rotated before the hit, because when I first started caring about my form I was doing the complete opposite and getting no body rotation at all. I think I may of over compensated but it works for me. I don't think it effects accuracy much. My idea when driving is if you held a ruler flat against my chest, to point the end of the ruler where I want to throw. How much I rotate during the run-up is irrelevant because through repetition I've taught my body to come back to the plane I lined it up at in the beginning. In my opinion on a backhand distance throw you should not be aiming with your eyes after you have taken your first step of the x-step. The only time the eyes are involved for me are when I'm picking my line and observing the wind. Once I'm ready to throw, I 100% trust in my body positioning. If you blind-folded me after I picked out my line and lined up my body and the shot, but before I actually threw, I don't think it would matter. I throw the same way in the open practice fields as I do on a hole with a 10' wide fairway in the woods and I think that's important to do.
That's what it all comes down to for me anyways. The body rotation and long reach back come into play for the distance but I don't think it has a very adverse effect on accuracy. Honestly I'm more accurate throwing at 80% than I am when I try to power down, because at high power things feel more familiar.
The mental side of things is really important too. For me, I've never been able to step up to a drive and think, "Keep the nose down, accelerate late, get your body into it, grip tightly at the hit etc." I just step of and throw. Through intuition, observation and practice you're able to pick out a line and you know what it feels like to throw that line. In between the moment where you pick your line and you throw, the less time and the less thoughts, the better IMO. Optimally these things will come down to muscle memory, so once you've picked your route, your disc, assessed the wind and all that, it's simply a matter of letting go of everything and allowing your body to work. My best throws come when I am relaxed and not so much trying to throw my furthest, but rather I'm relying on smooth movements and clean form and letting things come into place themselves rather than trying to force it. I'm kind of drunk and don't know if any of this made sense or helped but there you go.