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Predator or Flick for thumbers/tomahawks?

Postby phatbeater » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:55 pm

Hey guys I'm new to throwing thumbers and tomahawks. I finally started adding them to my game. Can someone tell me which one is better for those kinds of throws. Thanks guys.
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Re: Predator or Flick for thumbers/tomahawks?

Postby jubuttib » Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:02 pm

Depends. Do you mean just all out distance?
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Re: Predator or Flick for thumbers/tomahawks?

Postby jubuttib » Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:04 am

By the way, this definitely belongs in the Equipment forum, not general discussion.
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Re: Predator or Flick for thumbers/tomahawks?

Postby phatbeater » Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:18 am

I put this in general discussion because it seems like more ppl will see this here then on there which was part of why I put it here. Can you explain the strengths and weaknesses of both? I've only thrown a break rhbh. Thanks
Driver: 175g z stalker, 2x174g surge, 174g z predator, 174g flx Avenger SS, 174g esp pulse, 174g z force
Mid-range: 178g FLX, Z, TI buzzz, 177g z wasp, 177 flx drone, 177g meteor
Putter: 175g flx challenger, 2x175g softapx, 2x175 pro-d challenger
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Re: Predator or Flick for thumbers/tomahawks?

Postby swel304 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:22 am

All of his posts so far belong in equipment but don't seem to be making it there.

You could just try overhanding all your current drivers for an hour or two and see what works best for you. Some discs should be better for accurate placement, some better for distance, ect..

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Re: Predator or Flick for thumbers/tomahawks?

Postby kern9787 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:24 pm

A very general rule of thumb for overhand shots (haha, see what I did there) is that more overstable discs make their turn slower, which translates into the disc penetrating forward further before dropping, but it requires a wider sweep for the turning part of the flight. More understable discs will have a tighter sweep and, in my experience at least, tend to drop with less of a horizontal aspect. But they won't penetrate as far forwards before dropping.
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Re: Predator or Flick for thumbers/tomahawks?

Postby jubuttib » Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:12 am

Also worthy of notice is that by overstability he means true overstability, not speed stability. A fast overstable driver can flip just as fast as an understable one (Boss, Destroyers), the real slow turning thumber gold lies in the slower overstable discs like flat Firebirds, Champ Banshees, or the two slowest turning thumber discs out there, the Opto XXX and the Premium JOKERi (the first runs are absolutely fantastic for this, haven't tried a second run though).

If you can really spank your OH though, the speed of a fast driver might actually give you more distance than the glide of a slower one, at which point flat Z Flicks and Z Nuke OS's become great choices. But you really need to be ripping them out there.
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Re: Predator or Flick for thumbers/tomahawks?

Postby Frank Delicious » Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:52 am

The old champ whippets are the slowest turning thumber discs ever.
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Re: Predator or Flick for thumbers/tomahawks?

Postby jubuttib » Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:55 am

How's the Z Xtreme for OH?
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Re: Predator or Flick for thumbers/tomahawks?

Postby Frank Delicious » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:37 am

good if you have a huge arm.
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Re: Predator or Flick for thumbers/tomahawks?

Postby dgdave » Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:24 am

They are the best.
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Re: Predator or Flick for thumbers/tomahawks?

Postby jubuttib » Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:32 am

Slow or fast turners?
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Re: Predator or Flick for thumbers/tomahawks?

Postby Frank Delicious » Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:40 am

pretty slow.
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Re: Predator or Flick for thumbers/tomahawks?

Postby pdiddy71 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:44 pm

I have had some decent luck throwing a Star Max for overhand, just tomahawks though. I still have grip issues throwing thumbers.
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Re: Predator or Flick for thumbers/tomahawks?

Postby money 21 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:18 pm

the z xrtras were great thumbers. i currently use tridents for the wide sweeping thumber and a z tracker for the tighter rolling throws. i get about the same distance of between 275'-300', but lines are different.
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