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Re: Disc golf videos....

Postby chainchaser » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:37 am

jubuttib wrote:Looks pretty nice. Go easier on the zoom if you're shooting without a mono/tripod, and check the video before posting it. Some of the texts just flashed into view, you didn't leave any time to actually read them.
Yea I know. I thought and actually went back and made them longer but I guess still not long enough. I had a monopod with me but then Dave Feldberg asked me if i would caddy for him so carrying two camcorders and his bag was enough so I didn't bring it on the course with me. It is really hard to check the video before posting it because i do the automatic download to youtube because it is faster. With HD it can take several hours to load onto youtube. My biggest issue is my computer because when I go to edit it and play it back in my editing software it lags pretty bad at times. Still not an excuse because I have done many other none DG videos so I should have known better. I will have a part 2 coming out and hopefully this time I will have it right.
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Re: Disc golf videos....

Postby Steady 26542 » Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:56 pm

jubuttib wrote:Looks pretty nice. Go easier on the zoom if you're shooting without a mono/tripod, and check the video before posting it. Some of the texts just flashed into view, you didn't leave any time to actually read them.

Agreed. You've got some good action. A little zoom is ok. I like to see the flight path of the disc. Watch how JR's video's are. Those are sweet!
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Re: Disc golf videos....

Postby JR » Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:54 am

Hehe anyone wanting to caddy for Feldy just bring a video camera. My club mate caddied for Dave at the European Open carrying a camera. He's on lcgm8 partially with a video camera. Normally i don't want to leave other camera people in front of my camera, but at the EO caddies got in the way occasionally and staff photographers. Sometimes you don't have the space or the time to move. And i'm not interfering with the players and caddies in any way if i can avoid it and will go far in avoiding just that. It's not the place of outsiders to play a part in the action.

I caddied for Feldy at the Scandinavian Disc Golf Open 2010 and the bittorrent of the whole event is free to download. I just hope it wasn't as hot and the course doesn't have as steep and high hills as Järva course in Stockholm, Sweden :-) Filming the whole event shot for shot is way more difficult as a caddy as a free roamer, who can position any way suits the filming best. I was lucky in Järva in that i had tree cover from the sun most of the time close by, so people can actually see something of the throwing and the flight. It was bright clear skies and a record heatwave in Sweden at the time. Dave said that he came to Europe to escape the heat in the US and it was almost as hot as down south in Stockholm.
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Re: Disc golf videos....

Postby chainchaser » Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:01 am

Steady 26542 wrote:
jubuttib wrote:Looks pretty nice. Go easier on the zoom if you're shooting without a mono/tripod, and check the video before posting it. Some of the texts just flashed into view, you didn't leave any time to actually read them.

Agreed. You've got some good action. A little zoom is ok. I like to see the flight path of the disc. Watch how JR's video's are. Those are sweet!
Yea I am not really trying to imitate JR. I have watched many of his videos and they are really nice. This was really my first attempt at DG so I learned a lot. As far as the zoom I realized that when I started to edit and next time i will have a monopod with me to help out. Be honest on some of the video I took I see the camcorder zooming but looking at nothing because I took my eye off the screen to watch in amazement how well these guys threw and how far.

JR it was actually a record cold day here so heat was definitely not an issue. I don't think it got above 55 degrees all day. What was funny is Will was like he told me he would find someone to carry his bag so it was a running joke all day. Dave was like I took like 6 discs out so it shouldn't be that bad but man that thing was heavy. It did limit my ability to get some different shots but it was still a great time.
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Re: Disc golf videos....

Postby jubuttib » Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:22 pm

chainchaser wrote:Be honest on some of the video I took I see the camcorder zooming but looking at nothing because I took my eye off the screen to watch in amazement how well these guys threw and how far.
Yeah, that's definitely a downside to filming anything, makes it almost impossible to actually enjoy it. You just have to focus on the filming part if you want to get anything decent out of it. =P
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Re: Disc golf videos....

Postby JR » Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:03 pm

The caddy for Feldy at the EO 2011 told me, that Dave took many discs out so that the caddy would have it easier. i don't remember exactly how old the caddy is 14 or 13 i think. Dave also said to the caddy, that compared to last year he's using fewer discs per day in competition to lighten the load. It's bound to make caddying easier. Humping 43 discs all his other stuff and water for two and the camera equipment and for a while keeping score was a chore on that long hilly course in high temps for Europe. And i'm more geared to cold weather than hot.

I wasn't limited by the bag, but the need to be close to Dave. It ain't cool if the caddy runs away from the player carrying his discs :-D

I'm not making the videos by myself. lcgm8 does the heavy lifting after the event. I do announcing for some videos and handle getting the links to the people. We have outsourced announcing for some videos and that is way slower. In fact many projects have not moved, because the announcing hasn't materialized. And i would very much like to see stars doing the announcing instead of a Joe Schmoe like me. Announcing by myself is a very quick job compared to how lcgm8 edits slower than cut and paste for extra quality. For hopefully TV readiness and TV visibility on larger channels.

Both lcgm8 and i missed the disc on the view screen and had to look for the disc visually at the EO sometimes. Sun and low contrast to the sky discs from far away coming at you are very difficult to see even with the naked eye.

lcgm8 had a better view screen in his old camera than the new, but the new one is superior in every other way than the zoom button for small hands. The good thing is that his paw is large enough for the new camera. Mine ain't. lcgm8 had less trouble following the disc in the view screen with his old camera and mine is just horrible.
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Re: Disc golf videos....

Postby JR » Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:16 pm

jubuttib wrote:
chainchaser wrote:Be honest on some of the video I took I see the camcorder zooming but looking at nothing because I took my eye off the screen to watch in amazement how well these guys threw and how far.
Yeah, that's definitely a downside to filming anything, makes it almost impossible to actually enjoy it. You just have to focus on the filming part if you want to get anything decent out of it. =P


I can't follow the score, when i'm filming. i'm so busy thinking ahead to find the perfect spot to film from from not pointing the camera at the sun, finding shade for the camera, making sure that i can film the entire flight, not being in the way of the players and the disc, personal safety from richocheting discs etc. points of view. There's little point in filming and not covering the event if the disc breaks the camera or you. Then there's the matter of in the act of filming keeping the camera steady, disc in the picture, panning sideways and vertically along with zooming in to the thrower and then out, while panning often not breathing at all. That is tough, because i also need to run often weighted down with gear. Monopod and forest while running...

Filming from the tee is lazy compared to middle of the course filming, because you need to film the putt of the last player and run to the next hole halfway or whereever before the first player throws and have the camera ready, running and pointed steady and zoomed in to the tee. Bends in the fairway beyond line of sight forces two or more cameras or running to the bend to catch the whole flight in video so filming alone or from the middle of the fairway in multi camera work is way more physical than playing the event. I dream of sometimes being able to step in front of the camera to have an easier time in the event :-) And more fun. Filming is a lot of work and always very long days, playing is fun, easy and leaves you time to recuperate. We often have to do with 5 hours of sleep that for me is often interrupted. Playing is way less stressful and you can sleep more and start out much more fresh the next day. It also takes more days to rest to 100 % after a filmed event than a played event. It is natural, because cameramen have to move often for each shot so they walk the course the same as the players and for each shot of the four players in a group walk or run extra to get the best shot and not being in the way. I wouldn't wonder if i walked/ran double the distance per round compared to the players. Who can sit down if they want to. Argh! Makes me wanna play and take it easy. Instead i'm in flu and now having to think of the hardness of filming.... Blechhh.

Luckily i'm multitasking watching the DGP.tv USDGC coverage simultaneously. Or rather waiting for something to see and typing in the meantime.
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Re: Disc golf videos....

Postby chainchaser » Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:10 pm

Here are a couple more videos from the KY state doubles. Feldberg and schusterick really turn it on here and just smoke the course for the most part.

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Re: Disc golf videos....

Postby fanter » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:06 pm

I really enjoyed these videos. How about some different music, or none at all? It's nice to hear the players talking and cracking jokes.
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Re: Disc golf videos....

Postby Jeronimo » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:46 pm

I'm almost positive I saw dave foot fault at 14:07 on that presidents cup vid.
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Re: Disc golf videos....

Postby chainchaser » Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:54 am

fanter wrote:I really enjoyed these videos. How about some different music, or none at all? It's nice to hear the players talking and cracking jokes.
Hmm OK I have a couple more left to do so I will back off the music a bit.
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Re: Disc golf videos....

Postby Royalhghnss » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:35 am

I have some vids up of two tournies. Google "CentralCoastDiscGolf". I've got the 2011 Santa Maria open with Eric McCabe, will shusterick, joe revere , and gabe coda. As well as the 2011 End of he Trail Classic with EMac again, Derek billings, Steve Rico, and Shasta criss. Hope you like em.
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Re: Disc golf videos....

Postby Frank Delicious » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:39 pm

There's a 3 hour video of the memorial up on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6uRadDq ... r_embedded
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Re: Disc golf videos....

Postby Frank Delicious » Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:19 am

anyone know what happened to the ClashDVD channel on youtube? All the videos are marked private on there now.
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Re: Disc golf videos....

Postby dehaas » Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:49 am

I was wondering this myself, went to go watch a video or 2 the other day and they weren't available.
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