JHern wrote:I had a really great over-stable Pro D Challenger once, tacky but rigid, with gold stamp...I was driving it, putting it, approaching it, everything. But then it got so beat up (as useful discs tend to do) that I had to go in search of another. I tried many many many others, and none of them were the same. Kind of like how the old (circle tool) Wizards were over-stable, but the modern ones are purely stable...I encountered the same with the Challenger. My sources on the inside say that this is simply what they do (both Discraft and Gateway), people complained that the putters were too over-stable and so they started to tweak the blend to get them more stable instead. Publicly, of course, the Discraft folks are supposed to parrot the "consistency" garbage peddled by Discraft (consistent my ass!).
Still, I dream about that older Pro D Challenger. Disc golf just isn't the same without it. Maybe another manufacturer will make one like that one day.
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phatbeater wrote:I just got a few d challengers 3 weeks ago and they are sick. i got them from DD and they are concaved and overstable like they used to be!!! They are the best putters i have ever thrown. They are stiff yet tacky, kinda like a harder x. i have a flx for driving and still not nearly as accurate on releases as the pro d's. if u can get the concaved ones new DO IT!!!!!
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