seabas22 wrote:Pulling the disc in straight line and close to the chest basically requires you to bend your elbow/lead with the elbow. The throw is similar to throwing an elbow at someone and then backfisting them on the same target line.
Thanks for that comment. That crystalizes it more for me. I think in a couple of the videos above, my lead elbow is actually dropping low. Any of you see that too? Or am I really crazy?
seabas22 wrote:The stickies in the technique section are great at explaining in slightly different ways especially the secret technique, snap2009, and driving tips with dan beto threads/vids.
Funny you mention it, I've watched snap2009 a couple of times and the concept is still difficult to grasp. I understand the ligament tension built by the weight of the disc causing the wrist to close, which then unleashes with a "snap" as the arm extends along the target line. Does that sound accurate?
JR wrote:Tired will get back to you later but i'm busy for a while. In the meantime, what happens when you throw with the thumb moving a quarter inch at a time toward the center of the disc?
Thanks JR, regardless of being tired. I really appreciate it. I actually haven't tried moving my thumb back toward the center of the flight plate yet. For some reason, when I grip the disc with my thumb pad towards the center -- away from the rim -- and I press down firmly, I can't help but think I'm changing the shape of the disc and in some way negatively altering its natural flight. This has always been a poor assumption on my part, but in the feel of the game combined w/ trying to keep the nose down, I've never really tried it.
JR wrote:4 quick checks for handling nose up. Are you pulling on a constant height above the ground? Are you pushing enough with the rear leg to get upright or a few degrees forward when the disc leaves the fingers? Do you actively push the wrist down and hold the disc in the hand so that the disc is parallel with the forearm bones running from the wrist to the elbow?
These are great, and I will begin to focus on them.
(1) I know I should pull on a consistent height, but it's pretty clear from what seabas22 noted, my reach back is high off the ground, when it gets to my chest, it's low, and then the release is high again.
(2) I feel my rear leg push forward, and I think I'm upright on my release, maybe even slightly tilted back like a hitter in baseball trying to drive through the ball. This is built through years of playing that sport, and like seabas22 was saying, I need to visualize pulling through the disc forward of my body.
(3) I don't think I'm actively pushing hte disc down, and I definitely need to find a way to orient it so that it's parallel with the forearm. I think I have a problem with releasing hyzer by having the disc at an angle in relation to the forearm bones. Does that make sense?
Again, thanks guys. Much appreciated. Doesn't look like I'll be able to get out today due to weather, so I may try some more hammer pound drills and maybe right pec drill without releasing it.