Mark Ellis wrote:I understand that each player may only absorb a small percent of what is taught. I am ok with that. It takes a base level of understanding and experience to follow some of the more advanced instruction. Let each player take away what they can. If everyone only gets a few things which help their game this is still a success.
Disc golfers are not going to take notes. If I passed out paper and pencils and threatened demerits they would not take notes.
Disc golfers are not going to read pass out materials. Ok, maybe 5% would. Maybe. They might watch a video a few times but video is much more consumer friendly. If I could make more videos I wouldn't spend my time on Clinics (except to publish them on video). The videos I have published so far have over 2 million hits. The Clinic I will teach this Saturday may get 30 to 50 players.
If I can't teach something clearly enough that disc golfers can follow it then the fault is mine.
Totally understandable. When I put on clinics/classes I often ask myself, "Why bother?" when I see people recycle them/throw them afterwards. But there are those few that do hang on and do use them that thank me for them. And they don't need to be huge elaborate notes. They could be just some key summaries based on your videos, few detail pictures and they can write their notes on that. Just an option to those who want that kind of detail.
Mark Ellis wrote:On Disc Selection:
Disc Selection is too personal to be taught to a group. Just because a Crush is the perfect hyzer disc for me at 300 feet means absolutely nothing to the group I am teaching, unless their throwing style and power level is the same as mine-which it ain't. Attending my Clinic are 10 year old kids who throw 100 feet and big. strong, athletic players who throw 500 feet but can't hit the forest in front of them.
Once I see a player throw a few shots and know what spot they want to fill in their bag I can hand him the disc to do it (and teach him the form to do it). This is a one on one thing, not a general topic.
Topics which are universal are good for clinics. Throwing form is universal. No matter your skill, experience or power you need to know the various ways to throw an anhyzer (for example). Throwing a Magnet is not universal. For any given disc there are some players who will love it and others who will hate it. Neither player is wrong. I am never going to put an Optimizer or an Extreme or an Epic or an 86 Mold in my bag but each is a disc which may work well, even brilliantly, for particular players.
It would take an audience of only Pros and top Tournament Ams before I would consider Disc Selection Issues. The risk/reward of Wide Rimmed Drivers would be fun for very good players.
I don't personally believe in learning discs in order of speed (start with putters and only throw them until you master them then move to mids then move to narrow rimmed drivers and only last start using high speed drivers), so I don't plan to teach that approach. It makes no sense to me and I know of no examples where it was effective. Others may teach it and more power to them. I don't even buy starting all beginners on light weight, flippy discs. Some beginners are strong athletes with good snap developed in other sports.
I agree with you that this is a one-on-one topic, but at the same time, certain aspects can easily be touched up on in a group setting. Plus my suggestions were under the assumption that you were targeting the 'true beginners'. People that don't understand physics, didn't really play sports, and relatively "uncoordinated".
When I first started playing DG after the first 2-3 weeks I could easily throw Leopard/Buzzz/Comet/etc... So one of my buddies let me use his Nuke SS and it just made me frustrated cause I felt like like I was stuck or I was weak, etc... But I didn't understand the discs 'make up'. Then he suggested I go to GGGT and talk to the guys there. I remember the first time I went into Gotta Go Gotta Throw, I was completely overwhelmed. Then I talked to one of the workers there and they gave me the 'low down' and kind of a progression based on where I was at. Not to mention there's quite a few people out there that play disc golf and don't really understand what the discs really are capable of. One of the guys I play DG with, when I first met him, almost any disc he had and threw, would just go straight and fade left, and he though that was it. Discs are our tools, we need to understand them to make the best use of them.
As an Athletic Trainer dealing with college injuries can get very frustrating cause they don't feel like they're improving. One way we help them over come this frustration is to build a program based on progression. It's a blast to see someone be able to jog again after an ACL tear, it's like the best day of their life, and they tell the world. When people struggle with something, they go to clinics/class/seek help to get better, but too many clinics don't 'paint the big picture'.