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Re: so,you want to learn how to putt in the wind?

Postby jubuttib » Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:29 pm

Triflusal wrote:
jubuttib wrote:Still not as bad as Meri-Toppila. =)

I'd switch to upside down putting with the most overstable disc in my bag way before the wind got that bad...


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Re: so,you want to learn how to putt in the wind?

Postby JR » Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:31 pm

I don't recall exactly what the rating of Jussi was at that time but it was something like 1025. It is one of the classic F me moments in disc golf when you watch Jussi putting in the following video starting from 5 minutes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-6nmsbU ... 4Pq1NKU%3D

It was no joke and wonder that Teemu was rooting for a two meter putt he made and yelling YES! for each putt that stuck. It was no wonder that the local Juho put in the disc that was probably a Firebird. He putted with one the whole round. I've encountered worse winds only twice in my 10 years of continuous disc golf. The weather was shit really. After that hole the players said that is there any point in competing in conditions like that? I hear and feel them. You had to be there.

The video looks bad but the wind was even worse. I was like this is a total shit weather to film because it is stupid to be out in this kind of weather and at that point i was soooo beyond the point of feeling bad for the players because mentally i was far worse than i'm glad i don't have to compete in winds like these. I was jaded at that point because the wind just kept on getting worse and worse the closer we got to the shore. And the point of ridiculousness was crossed some holes before. People could have rolled dice for results just as well. Had there not been an image of professionalism and sportmanship plus rules to uphold. The fact that these guys finished the round speaks multiple volumes about them. Respect to the power of ten!
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Re: so,you want to learn how to putt in the wind?

Postby vto » Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:01 pm

Stupid to be out? Roll dice for results? Oh come on, it wasn't that bad. Yes it was windy, but that truly separated those who can play in a wind. There's no random there, it's skill and experience in playing in windy conditions, which was apparent from the local guys' scores which weren't that much worse than previous day's scores. Some people are just fair weather players, never going out when it's even slightly breezy, and then they get whiny when it's windy on a tournament day. Meri-Toppila is often a very windy place to play, and I find it part of the course experience. When it was dead calm on Saturday I was even worried if all the people that came here don't get to see the true Meri-Toppila, but then Sunday delivered.

In the "Tuulinen päivä Meri-Toppilassa"-video that wind actually fell trees on the course. That day it wasn't really smart to play, because it was dangerous.

And to the question in the topic, if you want to learn how to putt in the wind, go out when it's windy and practice putts. It might be frustrating at first, but next time you're playing a tournament in windy conditions it will pay off. Or move to live in a windy place so you have to putt in the wind more often than not :) Living here in Oulu I have seen worse winds (and played in them) many many times.
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Re: so,you want to learn how to putt in the wind?

Postby JR » Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:22 pm

vto wrote:Stupid to be out? Roll dice for results? Oh come on, it wasn't that bad. Yes it was windy, but that truly separated those who can play in a wind. There's no random there, it's skill and experience in playing in windy conditions, which was apparent from the local guys' scores which weren't that much worse than previous day's scores. Some people are just fair weather players, never going out when it's even slightly breezy, and then they get whiny when it's windy on a tournament day. Meri-Toppila is often a very windy place to play, and I find it part of the course experience. When it was dead calm on Saturday I was even worried if all the people that came here don't get to see the true Meri-Toppila, but then Sunday delivered.

In the "Tuulinen päivä Meri-Toppilassa"-video that wind actually fell trees on the course. That day it wasn't really smart to play, because it was dangerous.

And to the question in the topic, if you want to learn how to putt in the wind, go out when it's windy and practice putts. It might be frustrating at first, but next time you're playing a tournament in windy conditions it will pay off. Or move to live in a windy place so you have to putt in the wind more often than not :) Living here in Oulu I have seen worse winds (and played in them) many many times.


VTO lives in the city where the footage was filmed and at that time it was really that bad. Like i said i have played in worse conditions and trees did fall down. Sport, results and the spirit of sportmanship wise the conditions were stupid when the guys got to the shore. I don't know where you were at the time these guys got to the shore. The other side of the course was shielded from the wind to a large extent so that may explain the difference in the experience we had. Yes i know that Meri-Toppila experiences that kind of winds often because other locals told me so but were you at the shore at the time of these guys playing it? The winds got stiffer and stiffer when we neared that hole. The next hole was ravaged by the winds too but the further along in time and distance we got from the sea the easier the winds became. So we may not be comparing apples to oranges and vice versa. When the locals pull Firebirds for putts i call it not even and fair, not to mention sane, conditions for everyone. Especially for a guy manufacturing discs. YMMV. He may have had other agendas than minimizing the score. That is why lcgm8 did cut a previous day skill demonstration from Jussi into the video. It is not like Jussi does not know how to putt even in howling winds. He may have been acting according to other non playing related agendas in that video. You'd have to ask him to know for sure what he was thinking about and why he did not switch to beefier discs or putt upside down.
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Re: so,you want to learn how to putt in the wind?

Postby JR » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:48 pm

Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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