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Re: New Distance Record

Postby JHern » Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:02 pm

Star Shark wrote:Dunno. Avery and GG are likely to be there. If they get ahold of one, it oculd go...


GG isn't yet sure he'll make it to Santa Cruz (short on travel funds)...we're going to try to get him out here (I thought for sure he would already be playing Masters Cup).

Avery will definitely be here.
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Re: New Distance Record

Postby Skyncanvas » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:34 pm

7ontheline wrote:
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zj1002 wrote:Blizzard plastic might as well be base plastic... that stuff scuffs up as easy as DX.

Anyways nice to see someone break the record. I am sure Wiggins will keep topping it. someone will top 900ft but I am not sure if 1000 will be done.


What could a baseball pitcher with a 100 mph fastball do? What could a 7 foot tall power forward from basketball do? Until the sport attracts the best athletes aren't we just guessing?


Agreed. I wish Bubba Watson would drop the clubs and take up discs full time. With some exposure like that, we might be able to get the city to allow ball and disc on the same precious land in my lifetime.

Inner city kids throwing plastic aren't standing on the corner thinking about drive-bys. Several NBA starters from Memphis began with only a pair a hightops and a basketball. If they could afford golf clubs, a $100 golf bag, and $20 greens fees there would be a more diverse group of gentlemen on the greens.


I remember reading somewhere that Aaron Rodgers, QB for Green Bay, plays disc golf. Not the biggest arm in the NFl, but still quiet beastly.
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Re: New Distance Record

Postby JR » Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:25 pm

Here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxqXHF9DPng

What do you think of his position of the head and the neck?
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Re: New Distance Record

Postby seabas22 » Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:25 pm

JR wrote:Here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxqXHF9DPng

What do you think of his position of the head and the neck?


Looks like he is well anchored for lag.
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Re: New Distance Record

Postby dwiggmd » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:50 pm

JHern wrote:I've been hearing some chatter about the new distance record, some people are unhappy that this was held at a time when many of the major big arms were booked with something else. GG, AJ, CS, etc., were not present, and perhaps conditions on this day were such that they would have thrown even further.


This was posted April 15th on the PDGA website:

FWIW, I chose the date for this event based on 3 considerations.

Most importantly, I had the time available. I work many weekends and do not have every weekend off. I had to work the weekend prior to this event.

Second, it is before April 23rd, David Wiggins Jr's birthday. since he has been 9 years old we have been doing distance record attempts in the spring before his birthday to qualify for an age group record.

Third, it was over David Jr's week of spring break. He is enrolled in a very difficult High School academic program called IB (International Baccalaureate). He cannot afford to miss a lot of school.

This date conflicted with several other events. Almost any date would do that. In fact, we missed the Dogwood Crosstown in Raleigh, an event we love to do and have been doing for years. That is unfortunate, but everyone has to work within their personal limitations and having the event this weekend was the best I could do given mine.

I did try to publicize the event as widely as possible and especially to known throwers. Everyone who had the weekend off could have chosen to do the HDDC #3 or another event based on their own personal sets of priorities.

Short story. The timing was not perfect, but it was the best I could do. No one who wanted to participate was turned away.

http://www.pdga.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=33375

Life is full of choices, Those that did not attend the HDDC#3 made theirs.

Regarding this part: " perhaps conditions on this day were such that they would have thrown even further." Well, maybe so. The biggest fish is always the one that got away. But for some frame of reference chack out the top places in the distance competition at the PDGA Pro Worlds last year in Santa Cruz. http://www.pdga.com/files/documents/201 ... esults.pdf
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Re: New Distance Record

Postby 7ontheline » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:21 pm

That #2 name looks familar. I don't think JHern was taking any shots at anyone... only dreaming of 900 perhaps.

Thanks for the vid JR and to all those everywhere that promote my favorite sport.
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Re: New Distance Record

Postby fanter » Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:01 pm

7ontheline wrote:I don't think JHern was taking any shots at anyone.
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Re: New Distance Record

Postby JR » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:52 am

I just posted the link. Thanks for getting it filmed whoever did it. And thanks to Innova for putting it up on Youtube.

Congratulations to dad and coach too and please make sure that David junior hears our congratulations. And thanks for organizing the event. When people pay in advance for a competition and hear of a new event being held at the same time it is easy to not take the hassle of trying to get the money back from the first event and signing up for the second. That is just human nature and in some cases there are time limits to when you can get refunded for pulling out of an event. That may be a part of it. Someone is always gonna be unhappy and that is the nature of organizing events. You can't avoid that. You just have to shrug it off. Bending over backwards for someone is showing the plumbers jeans to somebody else so you can't take the bitching personally. It is always gonna happen as long as the players get educated about it. How would they feel like when nobody arranged the events? Let them run the events themselves and see for themselves. That is what many people to do bring up their kids. giving them responsibility for doing something showing what needs to be done and what the trade offs are and why things are done the way they are done. There are always upsides and downsides and finding a working solution for the benefit of the majority means stepping on the toes of the minority often. If that is the greatest good so be it. And let the bitchers bitch and grow up as they get better informed. Letting them to be informed needs to happen as well. Wishes aren't horses and if everyone got their wish you'd end up with horse of at least two different heads walking in opposite directions. That doesn't go far :-D That's reality for you :-D

Regarding the day the winds weren't that fast. I'd expect more for the desert and i imagine the previous record had much faster gusts pushing and lifting the disc. From eye witness accounts of the previous record.

dwiggmd wrote:
JHern wrote:I've been hearing some chatter about the new distance record, some people are unhappy that this was held at a time when many of the major big arms were booked with something else. GG, AJ, CS, etc., were not present, and perhaps conditions on this day were such that they would have thrown even further.


This was posted April 15th on the PDGA website:

FWIW, I chose the date for this event based on 3 considerations.

Most importantly, I had the time available. I work many weekends and do not have every weekend off. I had to work the weekend prior to this event.

Second, it is before April 23rd, David Wiggins Jr's birthday. since he has been 9 years old we have been doing distance record attempts in the spring before his birthday to qualify for an age group record.

Third, it was over David Jr's week of spring break. He is enrolled in a very difficult High School academic program called IB (International Baccalaureate). He cannot afford to miss a lot of school.

This date conflicted with several other events. Almost any date would do that. In fact, we missed the Dogwood Crosstown in Raleigh, an event we love to do and have been doing for years. That is unfortunate, but everyone has to work within their personal limitations and having the event this weekend was the best I could do given mine.

I did try to publicize the event as widely as possible and especially to known throwers. Everyone who had the weekend off could have chosen to do the HDDC #3 or another event based on their own personal sets of priorities.

Short story. The timing was not perfect, but it was the best I could do. No one who wanted to participate was turned away.

http://www.pdga.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=33375

Life is full of choices, Those that did not attend the HDDC#3 made theirs.

Regarding this part: " perhaps conditions on this day were such that they would have thrown even further." Well, maybe so. The biggest fish is always the one that got away. But for some frame of reference chack out the top places in the distance competition at the PDGA Pro Worlds last year in Santa Cruz. http://www.pdga.com/files/documents/201 ... esults.pdf
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Re: New Distance Record

Postby JR » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:59 am

DGR IT problems led to this double post. I thought i saw a message removal tool earlier and could not locate it this time.
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Re: New Distance Record

Postby 7ontheline » Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:51 am

Damn JR... put the beer down and delete those repeats
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Re: New Distance Record

Postby Frank Delicious » Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:06 am

well we definitely didn't need a JR post 4 times.
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Re: New Distance Record

Postby Pwingles » Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:34 am

JR, i like you and ima let you finish, but i just gotta say, lil wiggins had one of the longest throws of all time!!

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Re: New Distance Record

Postby JR » Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:17 am

I'm glad that the message went through i'm not glad that DGR never got to the message sent screen. :roll:
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Re: New Distance Record

Postby JR » Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:34 am

seabas22 wrote:
JR wrote:Here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxqXHF9DPng

What do you think of his position of the head and the neck?


Looks like he is well anchored for lag.


I would like to hear from either David how come junior holds his head so far down? One can lag with the head being more upright. Judging by the usage of the airborne left leg at the release he has listened to Feldberg and possibly golf coaches. The kind of upward angle he threw at is the closest disc golf equivalent of a golf swing and it makes perfect sense to see if golf form translates to a similar arm swing plane. It is basic physics why Feldy and David junior throw with the left leg off of the ground. I just wonder if the lesser left leg movement forward for David junior vs Feldy is enough to counter the massive body rotation and arm swing. Seeing as Feldy moves the leg farther forward for more counter force to the previously mentioned movements. But Feldy does it already with control drives. To me it would make sense to maximize the left leg kick to the right and back to front movement because David junior rips harder than Feldy with control drives.

Feldy too and golfers keep their heads down. So did David junior. Caveat: i won't put money down yet along which center line David junior was pivoting before i look at these videos more closely. Without doing that i wonder if keeping the bottom of the jaw on a parallel plane as the line between the shoulders is better for power generation. Disc golfers don't need to look down at the ball to aim to hit it. I do have an unusually mobile neck and despite that i feel tension and resistance to a throw in the shoulder muscles and lower neck muscles if my bottom of the jaw is misaligned with the shoulder line. The roration of the torso below the non moving head feels unhampered when the shoulder intersection line is parallel to the bottom of my jaw. So i wonder if David could increase his power generation by removing that resistance and get 260 meters with equal winds :-D

If he rotated around the line from his right heel through the right arm pit the low hanging head would put more mass away from the axis of rotation reducing the rotational speed. So raising the head may add more power from that cause as well.

Yes i realize this was asking about improving the longest official level ground toss ever. I just think he could do better and that's better for all of us. Popcorn munching while waiting for even more distance from him :-)
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Re: New Distance Record

Postby mrlaroo » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:13 pm

"Agreed. I wish Bubba Watson would drop the clubs and take up discs full time. With some exposure like that, we might be able to get the city to allow ball and disc on the same precious land in my lifetime."

That is funny, drop out of golf and the millions of dollars for disc golf and the hundreds of dollars that come with it. These purses that come with disc golf are sad. My buddy finished 2nd in this last comp here in Orgon in the pro division and all he got was 90$.lol and he payed a 50$ entrance fee. What does PDGA do with al lthe money they bring in cause clearly it is not going to the golfers.
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