Howling at the Coyote (JR has been right)

[JR]

I was talking about Champ 167 Spider vs Star Spider. C Coyote fades a hair more than S but the same thing as with the Spiders they are interchangeable in everything but the tightest tunnels.

[Drowsy]

Vibram Summit > Coyote.

[jubuttib]

Vibram Summit > Coyote.

Summit = putter. Coyote = mid.

[Drowsy]

Touche

[JR]

I would call that a colossal mistake also because the Coyote is a way more useful and versatile disc and better at more lines than the Summit. In fact the only thing that the Summit does well is to flip. So what so do a zillion discs and the Summit doesn't rise above others. In contrast the Coyote is a great straight, especially low apexes, straight disc at pulled power and minor flip to flex back top flat or minimal fade depending on apex height at more power. It is also very good in HSS to LSS ratio for not flipping out to a fairly long distance while going very far if given power and allowed to fly a minor flip with assured coming back. For a disc with those flight lines at different power inputs it is the most HSS i've encountered so it is the most dependable straight finisher that is longer than staple discs like Buzzzes. Gotta love that.

[butter]

i have a 180g champ coyote that is crazy soft and gummy with a decent amount of dome. its too finnicky for me but when im playing well, i get these unexpected long shots that just keep on going. I never really found a place for it in my bag, but for some reason i've sank 4 or 5 100'+ "chip" shots with it....haven't done it with any other disc lol

[JR]

Haven't thrown any Coyotes that had deviated in dome height nor gummy ones so that may differ from all the ones i've seen. Coyotes can be ripped like drivers at max power and when i hit it they just sail and saiiiiiil. Meaning last year i threw less with some fairway drivers on low lines and of course the Coyote needs to fly high for best D. But is still long for a mid on low lines too.

[Drowsy]

I was totallyyy thinking wolf for whatever reason. gnore my comment. Carry on.

[Trey133]

Wolf also = mid. The comparisons between mids and putters are skewed because the job functions of each are different.

[Drowsy]

Whatever helps you sleep at night. Wolf/Summit overlap huge. I doubt the wolf can do anything better than any understable putter.

[Trey133]

Man, you were right. I just got the best nights sleep of all time thanks to pointing out that the summit and wolf are different types of discs.

Thanks Drowsy for the tip!