I am a long time club ultimate player that has been playing disc golf casually off and on for the last 7 years. Just in the last few months have I taken the time to learn all the disc golf lingo and I have been experimenting heavily trying to find discs that use my ultra star skill set since it is so much better than my ability to throw disc golf discs in general. I have been playing on average 5 times a week for the last 3 months. I found this forum searching for more answers. I am not a great disc golf player or expert on anything disc golf. I hope my experience below helps the conversation.
Here are my main findings from the last few months. Below is how I got to these ideas.
1. Fairway drivers are plenty. I throw them farther than high speed drivers.
2. For me and some other ultimate players I know who take disc golf seriously, an opposite correlation between turn and fade (innova ratings) is a good thing. (-1 1, -2 2, -3 3, etc.)
3. The Dart and specifically the Echo star dart has been the perfect disc for me as an Ultimate player on my backhands as well as being decent for forehands, hammers, thummers, and scoobers, as well.
4. The Polecat will make any ultimate player happy about their forehand approach shots.
Any disc ratings I used came from Innova or from the free chart on this page.http://www.altitudediscgolf.com/servlet/StoreFront
I specialize in pulling, or kicking off, in ultimate. This is the one throw where you do not have a pivot foot and are allowed to run into the throw. One advantage to this is that ultimate players who pull usually have a great x step and use their legs well for power. I want to mention this because I think that I have more power because of that experience and not all new disc golf players who play ultimate will have that so it may or may not negate my experience below.
I was reading another forum last week where a top player here in Colorado was talking about how so many players throw discs that are way too over-stable and fast and that they compensate with bad form. I took this to heart and had amazing results.
I went to the store to buy a TL+, 7 6 0 1, and the salesman talked me into getting a Discmania Jackal, 7 6 -1 1, instead. I can throw this disc really far, farther than any other disc in my bag including my blizzard Boss, my Katana, my Wahoo, and my Valk.
Discs that are opposites in Turn and Fade work great for me. For example Katana -3 3, Wahoo -2 2, Valkyrie -2 2, , Jackal -1 1, Skeeter -1 1, Dart 0 0, , Birdie 0 0, Polecat 0 0. That is basically my bag right now plus a Predator for spike hyzers and a Hydra.
In the past and currently when I have tried discs that do not follow the opposites rule I have been disappointed. So far my current Discmania Craze -1 2, my Scout 0 1, and in the past Surge-1 3, Wraith -1 3, Express -3 1, Stratus -3 1, Roc 0 3, Comet -2 1, Coyote 0 1, and Magnet -1 2 have all been discs I used and eventually sold or traded or am thinking about selling or trading.
This may just be me but I think that there is something to it and that the general rule of thumb may be helpful. Just in the last week have I realized this and I wish that I would have sooner.
I also noticed that going down in speed with similar characteristics otherwise has increased my distance. First it was from Katana to Valk and then Valk to Jackal. That is going from Speed 13 to speed 9 to speed 7. Each time I had a significant gain in distance.
As far as my favorite disc for ultimate throws that are not big drives I have two. First my Dart. I locked myself out of the house by accident the other day and only had my Dart. My buddy picked me up to play, he is also an ultimate player and loves his XD, -1 1, which he uses for 75% of his game using a Valk the other 25%. I went out and shot 5 down, my best score of the summer, using only my Dart. I can throw the Dart, in 0 wind conditions, as far as most of my drivers. As I played with it more I was turning over my soft Dart and bought an Echo Star Dart which did the trick as it is just a little bit more stable. For backhands this is my disc of choice. It's low speed, 3, and moderate glide, 4 seem to mimic an ultrastar more than anything else I have ever thrown except that I can throw it way way farther than my ultrastar, way over 300 with accuracy and control.
For shorter midrange shots I always want to throw a forehand because it feels so much more natural to me as an ultimate player as it is my most accurate throw with an ultrastar. This is true for most experienced ultimate players I know. Until today I was throwing it with my Dart and it was ok but not anything to write home about. I bought a polecat and wow my game just changed drastically. It comes out of my hand and does exactly what I think it will do. Halfway through my round today I threw an approach shot from about 100 and stuck it for a birdie. After 7 years I finally found a good disc to mimic an ultra stars flight on a forehand.
I am still trying to find a disc that I can throw far with a forehand. The Polecat is perfect for the shorter stuff. The usual over stable recommendations for forehand drivers do not work for me. Let me know if anyone has any recommendations for discs that will work well with the muscle memory I have from throwing forehand ultra stars for distance.
Thanks to everyone that posts on here. I am leaning a ton!