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Hetseeker's form

Postby Heatseeker » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:15 pm

So, here's few throws on a field. Not long, around 330 feet (~100 meters), the field isn't much longer and it's always awkward to go pick up disc from people's yard. Thus trying to throw lower and straighter lines with slow run up. Anyway, the goal is just to show the form and maybe receive few tips to improve it. My golf drive max distance is currently 400 and 430 feet.

Apparently I fail at embedding so here we go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LdlbXbtIOE
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Re: Hetseeker's form

Postby seabas22 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:30 pm

Your elbow drops really low during the pull and the upper arm collapses too close to the chest because you aren't bracing your spine against the front side/foot properly. Your spine collapses or folds over into the hit, instead of expanding the spine and finishing with a big chest pointed at the target. The rear hip gets left behind the throw as your steps are quite long and flatfooted and not quite balanced. You want to land your plant foot more on the toes and let your weight roll on the inside of your foot down to your heel. If you watch your x-step you are kind of twisted/tight and compressed. You want to be taller and looser and then go into a compression coming into the hit. Watch Epen's footwork in the x-step, how tall and light he is and then goes into compression and watch the difference in the followthrough of the spine curvature. Your spine curvature from the side angle is collapsed like ), and Espen's spine curvature is expanded like ( right after the hit.



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Re: Hetseeker's form

Postby JR » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:53 pm

The hips turn left of neutral in the reach back fine but you lack the mirroring as you throw and go into the follow through. That is robbing some pivot speed which is a big deal because all the power you generate gets multiplied the lever of the arm. So not being able to push with the left leg late in the throw because the leg is airborne before the disc has left the hand hurts too and is partially the reason for the hips not turning right. The left arm could be weightless for pivoting considerations if it moved faster forward than the rest of the body. Less mass for the legs, hips and shoulders to turn=faster pivot= more exit speed and if you can hold on to the disc long enough also more spin. Which in turn would delay the onset of fade making flights straighter and longer. Flat footedness creates injuries, robs power and and slashes consistency. Have you tried different timings and accelerations of the arm in the arm pull? As of now you start fairly early and don't have a pause in the legs and hips so the elbow never leads the throw. That robs a lot of power from the elbow chop undermining the wrist snap and disc pivot. The places where power comes from. Not because the arm is strong but because it is the conduit through which the real power sources the legs and the hips direct the energy into the disc moving fast forward.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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Re: Hetseeker's form

Postby Heatseeker » Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:13 am

Thank you both for the tips. I will try to focus first on that footwork (getting rid of flat footing) and get the form more taller and open. Actually tested it already today. Few throws felt a bit better and the form felt more balanced, but it's too early to say anything.
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