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Best "Driver" for the complete beginner??

Postby evansanity » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:11 pm

Whats the best disc a complete beginner should use for drives? How long until the player can step up to a faster disc? What would that next disc be? :?:
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Re: Best "Driver" for the complete beginner??

Postby AcesAZ » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:15 pm

Like your American Psycho pic. Id say Discraft Comet or Innova Shark in base plastic. Once you can throw either of them 280 on a rope consistently then look at something faster like a Leopard or FD.
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Re: Best "Driver" for the complete beginner??

Postby JR » Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:03 pm

Coyote and Warship could work. Warships is less HSS and needs less power. Both are thin short winged discs easy to grip and long for mids without horrible power requirement.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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Re: Best "Driver" for the complete beginner??

Postby money 21 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:00 am

Squall. (mid power requirement darn near fairway distance.
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Re: Best "Driver" for the complete beginner??

Postby Jesse B 707 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:15 am

Impact....do they still make those?
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Re: Best "Driver" for the complete beginner??

Postby JR » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:28 am

money 21 wrote:Squall. (mid power requirement darn near fairway distance.


For a complete beginner it may be too much but it is a good step forward from mids once the mids start to behave.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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Re: Best "Driver" for the complete beginner??

Postby JHern » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:08 pm

The Comet.

Still the best new-player disc available, and you can find it in many plastics.
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Re: Best "Driver" for the complete beginner??

Postby JTdisc » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:31 pm

Innova Shark then move up to a Leopard

Or Discraft Buzz then move up to a Stratus or Stalker
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Re: Best "Driver" for the complete beginner??

Postby JR » Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:48 am

JHern wrote:The Comet.

Still the best new-player disc available, and you can find it in many plastics.


Err that is way rude teacher of form. To the point of pulling out hair and tossing the disc into garbage and never playing disc golf again. It needs familiarity with throwing motion and knowledge of good form and expert supervision so that we don't turn away new players. Mako is way friendlier and Warship seems to be designed for new players and Coyote rocks.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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Re: Best "Driver" for the complete beginner??

Postby evansanity » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:22 am

What about a Teebird, TL or Roc?
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Re: Best "Driver" for the complete beginner??

Postby martinb » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:39 am

a beginner "driver" is not a mid range disc. or a putter. your throwing motion will be different with those discs compared to a disc in the "driver" category. i understand where those posts are coming from, learn form/technique first then move up to a driver disc. your best bet is to get a forgiving "fairway driver", like a leopard, or a jls, then the teebird, or a valkyrie type disc after you master the slower fairway drivers. have you looked at the Innova rating chart for discs? it will give you a clue as to speed ratings and such....
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Re: Best "Driver" for the complete beginner??

Postby JHern » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:57 pm

JR wrote:
JHern wrote:The Comet.

Still the best new-player disc available, and you can find it in many plastics.


Err that is way rude teacher of form. To the point of pulling out hair and tossing the disc into garbage and never playing disc golf again. It needs familiarity with throwing motion and knowledge of good form and expert supervision so that we don't turn away new players...


The Comet is the best disc for somebody who REALLY wants to learn how to throw well, from the start. Learning to get a clean release, and get a good spin on the disc, shape lines, etc., can all be done best with the Comet. And once you've mastered the Comet, the entire rest of the world of discs is your oyster.

As you well know, the Shark, the Mako, the Buzzz, and many other discs are crutches for a new player, and can hide flaws in their form that will haunt them and limit their potential...forever. Unless they go back to something like the Comet after a while, and train with it. But why go back to it later, when somebody could get it going the correct way right from the start?

Anyways, it all depends on the intention of the OP. Does he really want to learn the best possible disc, or is he impatient to try a disc that will perform OK without requiring much in terms of actual skill?

Following up on the question, I would say step up to a Buzzz or Roc or Aftershock or Warship or Fuse or something like that after they can throw the Comet at least 250' on flat ground with no wind. Then Teebird or Eagle or Cyclone or Gazelle, etc..
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Re: Best "Driver" for the complete beginner??

Postby JR » Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:27 pm

The Mako is a fine balance between teaching hard and giving some user error problem. I would say that a new player starting out with a Comet needs an experienced instructor on hand as well. Not knowing what you are doing and what you should be doing is cause for unnecessary blood pressure problems. With a coach and the will to go far sure the Comet is a good choice. For training by yourself something less picky is better.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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