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bag based around improving form

Postby cubeofsoup » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:27 am

Drivers:
Star Teebird 166g
Star Leopard 174g
Champion Firebird 171g

Mids:
DX Roc 180g (new, flat top, DGR stamp)
DX Roc 175g (used)
Z Comet 169g

Putters:
Soft Eclipse Ion 174g (putt)
SSS Wizard 175g (approach)
Medium Anode 169g (drive) (don't like this, looking to replace or just get rid of, but I feel like I need a neutral/understable putter)
Pro-D Banger GT 173g (drive)

I'm getting 300-350 RHBH with the Teebird/Leopard, 315 RHFH with Firebird. Comet/Roc are 250-300.

Things in the closet: 174g Champ Wraith, 172g E* Wraith, 169g Champ Beast, 165g FLX Surge, 169g Fuse (beattt test run material), 169g CD, 170g? DX Eagle (beat), 161g Star Roadrunner.

At my ability is there anything else I should be using either from my closet or otherwise?
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Re: bag based around improving form

Postby keltik » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:54 am

your drivers look fine
Your mids also look fine
Putters is where you get a bit crowded. You could easily get a Medium Ion and drive and approach with it and drop the Wizard and Banger-GT. You could also try the Opto Pure in place of the Anode(it may change your life.)

Well depending on what you want to do you could pull the Wraith out of the closet and use it for wide open distance and lower line shots. It's a good disc.

I personally like Eagles and you could technically replace your FB and TB with a cadre of Eagles. And if you mixed Eagle-Ls and Eagle-Xs you could also drop the Leopard. I personally use EX/Leo with great success.

you could also pull out the RR for rollers and long range turnovers.

You should also give the Polecat a try. Ò.Ó
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Re: bag based around improving form

Postby cubeofsoup » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:34 am

Could you elaborate on the whole Eagle thing a bit more?

I will check out the Pure, might have to get another Ion. The Eclipse plastic looks so amazingly cool that is the primary reason I picked it up and use it. Feels like a Tron disc.
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Re: bag based around improving form

Postby keltik » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:16 pm

The Eagle-X specifically is a very versatile disc. It's ratings say -1, 3 but when brand new it is more like -0.5, 3.5. As it wears in it tends to lose it's HSS but keeps its LSS. so it ends up being good for line shaping. and since it is near 0 HSS when new it FHs superbly. you could technically drop both the FB and TB by switching to Eagles. you would still need about three different Eagles to pull it off. 1 Eagle for FH (either a continual new max weight DX or a Max weight Champ), 1 Eagle for normal driving duties (your choice of weight and plastic) and one Eagle for turning/shaping (well beat in DX or an Eagle-L -> this could replace your Leopard).
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Re: bag based around improving form

Postby cubeofsoup » Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:33 am

Acquired a Champion Teebird in a trade, here's the bag now:

Drivers:
Star Roadrunner 161g
Star Leopard 174g
Star Teebird 166g
Champion Teebird 169g
Champion Firebird 171g

Mids:
DX Roc 180g (new, flat top, DGR stamp)
DX Roc 175g (used)
Z Comet 169g

Putters:
Soft Eclipse Ion 174g (putt/approach)
SSS Wizard 175g (putt/approach)
Pro-D Banger GT 173g (drive)

Trying to find a putter I like for putting, experimenting a lot. I have a Pure on the way to take over driving/upshot duties. Ion is really in the bag because of the look.

Putters I want to try:
Magnet, vibram stuff?, Aviar.
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Re: bag based around improving form

Postby JR » Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:03 am

I'd say stop buying more discs fora few months. you've got plenty of good putters too especially once the Pure arrives. You should do a shoot out between the putters and then decide on which to solidify your bag. Or one driver putter and one putting putter.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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Re: bag based around improving form

Postby cubeofsoup » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:18 pm

I like the shoot out idea, will definitely try that. Many shall enter, one shall survive.
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Re: bag based around improving form

Postby cubeofsoup » Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:36 am

Couple new discs, cleaned up the putters a bit.

Drivers:
Star Leopard 174g
Star Teebird 166g
Champion Teebird 169g
CFR Glow Champion Teebird 175g
Champion Firebird 171g

Mids:
DX Roc 180g (new, flat top, DGR stamp)
DX Roc 175g (used)
Z Comet 169g

Putters:
2x Magnet 175g (stiff, putt + approach)
Cryztal Z Challenger 175g (drive)
Opto Pure 176g (drive)

The Magnets are exactly what I needed in a putter. Stiff, really straight, been making more 20-40ft putts and more confident inside 20ft. Don't know if there is overlap between the Firebird and Heavy Teebird.
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Re: bag based around improving form

Postby cubeofsoup » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:25 am

In honor of my first sanctioned tournament here is my current bag:

Drivers:
S-PD 175g
P-PD 169g
Glow Champ Teebird 175g
Champ Teebird 169g
Star Teebird 166g
Star Roadrunner 161g
Champ Firebird 171g

Mids:
Z Comet 169g
X Comet 172g
ESP Buzzz 175g
Z Buzzz 175g
OS midrange TBD (lost my Z wasp)

Putters:
ESP Zone 173g
Opto Pure 175g
D Rattler 170g
Soft Magnet 171g x2

Hitting 400ft with the P-PD on occasion, longest disc for me so far. Teebirds are easy-mode 300ft shots, and can be pushed to 325ft. RR is used for big tailwinds, huge turnovers, and rollers. Rattler for special situations and pre-round catch.

Lost a Z Wasp, will replace with another, perhaps with a Hornet or a Ti Wasp. TBD.

Bag is a Lat64 pro bag with Lat straps. Picked it up last fall and used it all winter. Played a few rounds in warmer weather and the straps are less comfy than they are with a jacket/sweatshirt on. Might sell and buy something else if the comfort doesn't improve.

Things I have been messing with:
GL Northman 170g - flippiest disc I own, more than the RR, was messing around with it yesterday. Might get a slot for weird standstill hyzer flip madness. Certainly fun to throw because of how flippy it is.
Star Sidewinder 162g - payout selection at the tournament this weekend didn't have anything I actually need. Picked this disc up because it is a beauty. Marbled with multiple colors. Threw a few times yesterday, nice flights but overlaps with other stuff in the bag.
X Avenger 169g - similar to the P-PD but the PD is stiffer and more consistent for me.
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Re: bag based around improving form

Postby JR » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:09 pm

It is sad that they make so understable Northmen. You have enough power to throw warp speeders so maybe you should get one. Even if the course is short and tight it could come in handy with stand stills and throwing over obstacles. Since you have Buzzes maybe a Glo Z could take the overstable slot. It is not far from the Wasp.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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Re: bag based around improving form

Postby cubeofsoup » Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:26 am

Few months after the last update:

Drivers:
TBD (wraith? trespass? destro?)
C-PD 173g
S-PD 175g
P-PD 169g
Star Teebird 166g
Star Roadrunner 161g
Champ Firebird 171g

Mids:
Z Comet 169g
X Comet 172g
ESP Buzzz 175g
Ti Wasp 175g
Glo Gator 172g

Putters:
FLX Challenger 175g
Soft Magnet 171g
D Magnet 175g

Testing: Cached in some payout bucks for random stuff I thought looked cool: D4 and a Trespass.
Looking for: Something with less stability and more glide than a Zone, but less glide and more stability than a Challenger.
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Re: bag based around improving form

Postby keltik » Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:31 pm

in between a Zone and a Challenger? That's an interesting request. You may want to try the vibram VP. That's the only thing that comes to mind. I also want to say Rhyno but that smells off.
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Re: bag based around improving form

Postby PMantle » Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:44 pm

Ringer?(Never even seen one-just looking at chart)
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Re: bag based around improving form

Postby cubeofsoup » Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:36 pm

Anyone throw D Zones? I have a concave ESP and it's mega overstable.
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Re: bag based around improving form

Postby keltik » Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:47 pm

Forgot about the Ringer. interesting disc. will turn if some if thrown hard. D Zones are less OS and of course will beat in faster.
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