nismo923 wrote:A lot of good stuff here guys. Thank you very much. I have learned though through some feeling of discs, I do not want a bead at all, they are very uncomfortable in the hand. I want something that I don't have to work hard to make it do what it is already supposed to do. I also don't want to have a rotation of discs as well. I want something that will do what I want it to do right out of the box. I have thought about maybe going with a Lat 64 Pain in a max weight to add a little more overstability. If it's worth anything, I love the way a fairway driver feels in hand. The rim is the perfect size for people with tiny hands.
An overstable mid is sort of like a bicycle with training wheels. It works but is limiting.
Overstable discs have their place. An important place at that because nothing fights strong winds like an overstable disc can. But for shaping lines in normal wind conditions an overstable disc is limiting. An overstable disc has its own agenda. It is always going to hyzer out as it slows down. If that hyzering happens to follow the flight path you desire, so be it. If you need it to do something else, too bad for you because it is still hyzering out.
A stable (straight flying) disc can be more competently manipulated to bend lines.
Learning a touch is an advanced skill whether it be forehand or backhand. I think forehands are the more difficult of the two to master, having a smaller margin of error. So as players begin to learn forehand mids the "training wheels" of an overstable disc are useful. But keep in mind the limitations of an overstable mid and the long term goal to learn how to bend lines with a straight disc.
I carry 4 or 5 mids in my bag. All of them are Buzzzes in different degrees of stability . None of them are very overstable. Short of big headwinds I don't want or need an overstable mid, so while I have Zones and Wasps in my throwing stock, they sit in my trunk until needed.
nismo923 doesn't want a rotation of discs. I can't imagine why not. Any disc you know and love and works well for you needs to be in a rotation. You want variations and back ups. Every disc will change over time and any disc can become lost.
So learn and throw those crazy overstable mids. Just realize the long term goal should be to wean yourself off of them and learn clean, true lines.
Btw, if anything flies truer than a Buzzz for this shot I have yet to find it.