i don't understand all the mamba hate I love that disc easy distance easy to hyzer flip. i hope the td2 is to the mamba what the td is to the road runner. That is a little faster and a little more stable.
ringer, aero, breaker, glide, sabre, valk, avenger, flick, helios, teedevil, halo
i have seen monkey sh!t fights at the zoo more orginized then this.