JR wrote:Ti and Glo Z Stalkers are way more HSS and a third to a half more fading than Z so they handle a good deal of headwind unlike Leos. Leos vary in softer plastics but having owned each plastic Leos and in different weights i claim to know them decently well having bagged them for years. Primo plastic Leos have been similar to each other within the plastic. Star fades the most Pro can flip a good deal or be like a Champ that has been worn a little from individual variations when new. I've switched to Rivers with increased power now. Leos outdistance Stalkers and Rivers are a double edged sword in D. At less than full power they aren't terribly much longer than the Leo but at full tilt they pick up D suddenly from losing some of the fade so for ultimate straight line performance the power requirement of the River is high but it remains a very straight disc even at 360' which is the upper limit of Stalkers for me. Leo 380' max rarely and River rarely to 410'. Usually 380-390'. But this season i've tried to line shape Beasts to utilize improved upper body strength instead of the River for better minute angle training and wind tolerance. I've not been too good with that often flexing out of annies on high long throws. Pask that is where slower lower power requirement discs rule. Consistently maintaining anny far enough. Nobody hits the angles and powers to the max on demand each time before top pro status.
JR wrote:The Stalker can be used to substitute for the Leo not so much for the TB being shorter than the Leo. As a companion to the Eagle the Stalker is nice for ranging being shorter.
Fightingthetide wrote:Pask, are you having any issues with OAT? New players tend to throw warp speed premium plastic, relying on the massive overstability to compensate for their OAT. Not sure if that's where you are or not...your distance doesn't make me think so, but I'm just wondering why you don't throw any slower discs (other than the Stalker). Pros with big arms all know how to handle slower stuff. And like its been said before, the wider the rim, the harder it is to get control, repeatability, accuracy, and the skip at the end could kill your shot.
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