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Re: Discraft Titanium (now with pics)

Postby Frank Delicious » Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:52 am

It glides alright. All the ones I've thrown have a sunken top which definitely eats into their glide.
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Re: Discraft Titanium (now with pics)

Postby JR » Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:37 am

rooneytunes wrote:So what's the story on the Ti Wasp? Just how dirty is it? People are saying that it glides well, is dirty code for glidey?


It is beefier not glidier than Z Buzzz and the more power you have the better it is.
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Re: Discraft Titanium (now with pics)

Postby NoMoreTinCup » Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:22 am

My heavy blue colorshift Ti Wasp is more overstable and has less glide than the same weight Z production Wasp. It is also ultra flat, which I like. I think it fits perfectly where a Wasp should, between the overstable Buzzzes and the Drones of the world. That being said, I don't throw it a lot. Sort of a situational disc. I also just got my first batch of Ti Forces and Nukes. All Blue 174s. They are very overstable. The Forces are very flat across the tops, and resemble the Flick, only thicker, both in form and function. My forehand hasn't been tremendous lately, and these are overstable enough they sort of jump out of my hand and fly/crash high and then right, RHFH. Perhaps with some practice they could be useful, but they are every bit as piggish/meaty as any Z Force I have ever thrown. This came as a bit of a surprise, as the scuttlebutt was that they were LESS stable than designed. The Nukes I got are domey, and the one I threw is terffically overstable. My takeaway as far as Ti is concerned is that in all the molds besides the Buzzz, they are more overstable than the prodution counterparts. The Stalkers are like mini-Preds, the Wasps are like the best Z Wasps. This is also not based on a huge sample group, but seems to hold true in my experience, and from others I have spoken to.
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Re: Discraft Titanium (now with pics)

Postby JR » Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:25 am

Even flat high shoulder concave winged Ti Buzzzes are more HSS and LSS than good Z Buzzzes. The less overstable Buzzzes and Stalkers than good Zs that others have described here were shaped like less overstable than normal Z Buzzes and Stalkers especially.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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Re: Discraft Titanium (now with pics)

Postby archimedesjs » Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:15 pm

Anybody know how the TI Forces, and TI Nukes fly in comparison to their Z counterparts? I had picked up a TI Stalker recently, and was surprised by how over-stable it flew for me. I thought it would hyzer-flip out of the gate, and I was wrong, lol. Threw it flat, still didn't turn. I get more turn out of my NukeOS. I'm hoping the Forces, and Nukes fly more overstable as well.
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Re: Discraft Titanium (now with pics)

Postby 7ontheline » Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:23 am

rooneytunes wrote:So what's the story on the Ti Wasp? Just how dirty is it? People are saying that it glides well, is dirty code for glidey?


My 178 flat gold Ti wasp is not glidey compared to the two buzzzes and qms that round out my mid range game. My buzzzes go 15% further than the Ti Wasp on similar low lines with similar power. If I have the room for a 250-300' hyzer, face a moderate headwind, or have trouble/OB on the right (RHBH), I feel I can power the wasp close enough to get up and down instead of overthinking the shot. It's dirty because the fade is very reliable.

JR wrote:The less overstable Buzzzes and Stalkers than good Zs that others have described here were shaped like less overstable than normal Z Buzzes and Stalkers especially.


:arrow: What especially are you saying JR :?:


Also, it sounds like I might need to find a beat Ti Nuke before its flippy enough for my noodle arm, high line turnover shot. Maybe next year...
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Re: Discraft Titanium (now with pics)

Postby ForeverBlue232 » Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:30 pm

Are other people finding the Ti Wasp's to be more overstable and have less glide than Z Wasp's?
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Re: Discraft Titanium (now with pics)

Postby JR » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:28 am

Both Ti and Z varations within and across plastics seem to go along with similar disc shape changes. In Buzzzes flat topped high shoulder deeply concave wings make the discs more overstable and with the same shape Ti seems to be a little more overstable than a similarly shaped Z. I have seen more understable shaped domed less steeply concave winged lower PLH Ti discs that are less HSS than the good overstable shaped Zs.
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Re: Discraft Titanium (now with pics)

Postby Booter » Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:22 am

lovely

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i was very surprised to see such bright colors in ti. cant wait to toss them
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Re: Discraft Titanium (now with pics)

Postby 7ontheline » Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:29 am

I think I'm understanding you now JR. Its the same discs vary observations where the shape that makes them more or less overstable or understable depends on typical domey/flat, high/low PLH variences, with a new added twist of Ti being a touch more stable than Z all things being equal.

I can't speak to the glide of Ti vs. Z wasps but I have thrown a buddy's old school seasoned esp wasp that was still overstable. I'd stay my Ti wasp's glide was very similar and could easily hit the same lines as his much loved esp wasp. YMMV, as the Finns would say, depending on how your particular disc molds up.

Booter, I want that first seafoam colored wasp, very nice.
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Re: Discraft Titanium (now with pics)

Postby jubuttib » Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:06 am

All things (shape, size, weight) being equal there's no difference in the flight between Z and Ti. After those things the only thing that really could affect flight would be weight distribution (I'm assuming Discraft's blends are at least somewhat homogeneous and the density of the plastic doesn't vary across the disc significantly, so that's out) and to an extent surface texture. There might be some microscopic difference between Ti and Z surface textures, but they're so small I really doubt it'd affect the flight in any way.
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Re: Discraft Titanium (now with pics)

Postby JR » Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:39 am

Actually Ti has raised lettering on top of the flight plate so things aren't perfectly equal ever.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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Re: Discraft Titanium (now with pics)

Postby 7ontheline » Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:51 am

JR wrote:Actually Ti has raised lettering on top of the flight plate so things aren't perfectly equal ever.



Its often very hot and humid in Memphis and I sweat a lot. My pre-shot routine includes drying/cleaning my discs and hands with a microfiber towel. I grip the wasp with my thumb/palm over the raised lettering. I haven't done any testing to see if I can tell the difference reducing slips but I figure it can't hurt.
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Re: Discraft Titanium (now with pics)

Postby JR » Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:58 am

It feels better for me but constantly wiping the fingers with a towel soaks skin oils drying up the skin. That leads to a slicker grip so i recommend touching the towel with the off hand alone.
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Re: Discraft Titanium (now with pics)

Postby 7ontheline » Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:12 am

JR wrote:It feels better for me but constantly wiping the fingers with a towel soaks skin oils drying up the skin. That leads to a slicker grip so i recommend touching the towel with the off hand alone.


I don't really have a problem with dry skin, just big time sweat. In the summer, I carried three golf towels. One for my face, one to get the first drenching of sweat off my hands and forearms, and the microfiber one to clean the disc and soak up any remaining moisture between my fingers. It takes a few seconds but my hands are dry for a minute on the worst days. Stupid slips with my Ion got me started on this routine, now my OCD make the process necessary :roll:
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