the least changed most changed bag in the world

by **uNicedmeMan** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:43 am

Righto, I don't know why I thought that...

On topic - I think your gonna like the FD/PD combo.

by **victorb** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:39 pm

Official update! I'll have to play a few weeks with this setup, but I really do think it will work better for me than the overlap I had with the teebird/jackal. Still love the teebird, just as much as I love the comet, but equipment sometimes has to evolve as your game evolves. I hope I'm ready to take the next step with this setup. First test will be at Wildcat Springs for the B-Tier in a couple of weeks.

Drivers:
175 pDD
175 cPD
175 sPD
175 pPD
175 pPD
171 Z Predator
173 Z Predator
175 sFD - slightly beat
175 sFD

Midranges:
175 champ Gator
176 KC Pro Roc
180 glow DX Rancho Roc - newish
175 DX Rancho Roc - worn in
17x DX Rancho Roc - super beat

Putters
175 Cryztal Challenger
174 soft X Challenger
176 Medium Summit
174 D Challenger
174 D Challenger

by **Fightingthetide** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:58 am

Bag looks great. Only 7 molds...nice.

I have seen plenty of guys with Challengers in their bag, but I've never picked one up. How to they fly off the tee?

What does the Summit do for you that the Challengers don't?

And what are you throwing for max D in calm conditions? P PD?

by **victorb** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:24 am

Fightingthetide wrote:Bag looks great. Only 7 molds...nice.

I have seen plenty of guys with Challengers in their bag, but I've never picked one up. How to they fly off the tee?

What does the Summit do for you that the Challengers don't?

And what are you throwing for max D in calm conditions? P PD?

Actually 8 molds with the DD in there. Optimally I want to throw that for max D, but right now I have more control and nearly the same distance with pPDs.

The challenger is pretty straight stable off the tee. Not much left to right motion and not a ton of fade compared to wizards and kc pro aviars.

The summit is my flippy approach putter, it naturally wants to turn right on harder throws, and holds an anhyzer line longer on soft throws. It's actually a pretty nice compliment for an overstable putter.

by **Fightingthetide** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:42 pm

I missed that you have a DD in there. I bet that would start to fly really sweet after some seasoning.

Have you thrown P2's? Any comparison to Challengers in drives and putts?

by **victorb** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:20 pm

Thrown a few putts with the sP2 since that's my wife's main putter, but never took them off the tee. With putting they are very similar, but most putters seem to be inside of 40' for me. I think they'd be fairly similar on drives, but that's just speculation.

by JR » Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:23 am

P2 sticks a little more often to my fingers and doesn't recover as well as my FLX Challenger. The FLX glides less and is shorter. On a good shot both are pretty straight.

by **victorb** » Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:58 pm

Enjoying the surplus of discmania in my bag right now. pPDs are awesome now that I realize they are a slight hyzer flip disc even when new (kind of like a good dx teebird but longer)

Only minor change was dropping the pDD for a blizzard DD2. Considering putting a z zone in place of the champ gator since I don't really throw any longer shots with the gator and it might just be easier to use a faster, very overstable putter for the shots I use a gator with.

Oh, and I broke my super beat dx roc last weekend

So now my most flippy roc has about 1 full season of wear on it. It's working its way there, but doesn't quite turn like the old one did. I've been getting by using my summit a little more for turnover shots.

Drivers:
165 cDD2 blizzard
175 cPD - this has actually taken a ton of throws from my predators, I think I could get by with just one pred now.
175 sPD - one to beat in
175 sPD - one to keep fresh
175 pPD - one to beat in
175 pPD - one to keep fresh
171 Z Predator
173 Z Predator
175 sFD - beating in
175 sFD - fresh

Midranges:
175 champ Gator
176 KC Pro Roc - some wear
180 DX Rancho Roc - new
180 glow DX Rancho Roc - a little beat
175 DX Rancho Roc - really beat

Putters
175 Cryztal Challenger
174 soft X Challenger
176 Medium Summit
174 D Challenger
174 D Challenger

by **Fightingthetide** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:43 am

How's that DD2 treating you for max D? I've been eyeing one as a next step past my longest Champ Beast (370' to 390' or more in a tailwind). Which variation is yours in terms of dome and PLH?

by **victorb** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:27 am

Fightingthetide wrote:How's that DD2 treating you for max D? I've been eyeing one as a next step past my longest Champ Beast (370' to 390' or more in a tailwind). Which variation is yours in terms of dome and PLH?

I don't have much info for you yet, I've only thrown it a few times. Haven't compared it to any of the other blizz dd2s at the store yet either.

by JR » Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:37 pm

Blizz DD2 is very flippy but with a moderate fade. It is more of an s-curve disc than Zero G Quasars. Both like to s-curve in 150 but the Quasar slips so much less that it won't turn and burn nearly as easily and keeps a tighter s-curve with less lateral movement.

by **victorb** » Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:26 am

JR wrote:Blizz DD2 is very flippy but with a moderate fade. It is more of an s-curve disc than Zero G Quasars. Both like to s-curve in 150 but the Quasar slips so much less that it won't turn and burn nearly as easily and keeps a tighter s-curve with less lateral movement.

I didn't find my 165 blizz dd2 to be flippy at all. Definitely some high speed turn, but not flippy.

by JR » Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:19 am

Blizzards are all over the place shape and flight wise. Finnish description of the Blizz DD2 on Discmania.fi states that these discs turned out to be surprisingly understable.

by **victorb** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:15 pm

Picked up some cryztal zones from DD this week. Beefcake and pretty darn fast for a 'putter' - feels a lot like a midrange even. Does what I wanted out of a champion gator more consistently, so in the bag it goes, and stays.

by **victorb** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:47 am

victorb wrote:Picked up some cryztal zones from DD this week. Beefcake and pretty darn fast for a 'putter' - feels a lot like a midrange even. Does what I wanted out of a champion gator more consistently, so in the bag it goes, and stays.

but it's too overstable, even for what I wanted. Nearly impossible to work flex shots with, it seriously dumps out of the flight too fast. Champ gator back in, cryztal zones on the trading block.