Booter wrote:Fightingthetide wrote:They are rare at this point. When they were first run, people loved the champystar blends (usually yellow or red) because they would start out stable and beat into really straight. Most S PD's will stay stable for a really long time (for under 400' throwers) and eventually will start to turn just a little, but still keep a strong fade. That's not the PD that people on here love the most, but it's still a great disc.
I remember finding a first run red S PD in the used bin at PIAS a few years ago, not knowing what it was. Unfortunately, the first owner wanted it to fly understable out of the box, so he put it on the ground and used his foot to grind it down on the bottom. It would flip on 250' of power. In hindsight, it's a sad story, but at the time I had no idea.
I've moved down in speed/power from PD's because the "good" PD's are hard to find, and the other ones needed more power and were not as versatile for me as I would have hoped. Also, because the recent runs of P PD's were stiff and would chip when they hit a hard surface instead of getting scuffed or dinged.
ummm good pds are NOT hard to find. just about any spd is a good one.
The point was that the coveted champystar PD's are hard to find. I emphasized that PD's are still great discs, even if they aren't champystar.