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Re: MVP's new driver -- Volt

Postby Fightingthetide » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:24 pm

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turso wrote:so...it's an eagle-x?


Similar general stability, but it holds it's speed longer/glides better, is a bit straighter, and is faster. It is definitely not an EX


But much less stable than a new S PD? (HSS at least)
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Re: MVP's new driver -- Volt

Postby turso » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:25 pm

It sounds quite interesting.
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Re: MVP's new driver -- Volt

Postby keltik » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:31 pm

hrmm can you compare this more to an X Avenger? Or would you say it's more like a Saint? a Striker incarnation?
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Re: MVP's new driver -- Volt

Postby Fightingthetide » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:37 pm

I got it....it's a better Teebird! :D
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Re: MVP's new driver -- Volt

Postby discspeed » Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:05 pm

Fightingthetide wrote:
discspeed wrote:
turso wrote:so...it's an eagle-x?


Similar general stability, but it holds it's speed longer/glides better, is a bit straighter, and is faster. It is definitely not an EX


But much less stable than a new S PD? (HSS at least)


I don't know if I'd say much less stable...more like an OLF. By the time a PD has the high speed turn of the Volt it is not nearly as likely to come out of the turn.
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Re: MVP's new driver -- Volt

Postby discspeed » Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:10 pm

keltik wrote:hrmm can you compare this more to an X Avenger? Or would you say it's more like a Saint? a Striker incarnation?


I was kind of thinking the X Avenger is the closest thing I can think of. I did have a Saint today and threw it alongside the Volt today...The Volt is definitely faster and longer than the Saint. It's turn and fade is more pronounced. I have to say that I'm quite surprised that MVP's first driver has this kind of action. I kind of expected it to a super long frozen rope disc or something stable with late fade (basically a longer Axis or Vector).
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Re: MVP's new driver -- Volt

Postby keltik » Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:11 pm

I believe I just shat myself...
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Re: MVP's new driver -- Volt

Postby dgdave » Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:21 pm

I think it sounds like something I won't really like. In the past, I'd go blow 20 and buy one anywho, but I think Imay pass on this for now.
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Re: MVP's new driver -- Volt

Postby keltik » Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:24 pm

dgdave wrote:I think it sounds like something I won't really like. In the past, I'd go blow 20 and buy one anywho, but I think Imay pass on this for now.


why do you feel the need to lie to everyone?
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Re: MVP's new driver -- Volt

Postby turso » Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:04 pm

Normal for addicts. Denial.
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Re: MVP's new driver -- Volt

Postby Mike C » Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:40 pm

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Re: MVP's new driver -- Volt

Postby discspeed » Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:25 pm

dgdave wrote:I think it sounds like something I won't really like.


Wrong. Read ZJ's review:
zj1002 wrote:First, I've tried to not read much of this thread so that my reviews stay my own. I won't really touch on the "hyped" MVP characteristics like glide and gyro because people already are expecting such from MVP. It's all there like you get from their other molds.

Shape(feel in hand):
-Somewhere between a QJLS, OLS, and OLF. The top feels like a SJLS to me. The Volt bottom, mainly how concave, is inbetween the OLS and OLF. Very comfortable fit in the hand. I think the rim height/depth is perfect for what this disc is intended to be. Some might find it shallow compared to a PD or OLF but if it was deeper it would probably exhibit more HSS. From what I've heard from ZAM the goal was stable control, this shape achieves that.

Speed/distance
-It's faster than the FD/TL but shorter than the PD/LF(barely). It's a tweeners tweener. 8.5 maybe 9 on the 1-13 speed scale. Most throws we're 400-425. I did touch 440 and 460(on the 600ft measured DN field). Honestly it powers down probably better than any straight stable disc I've tossed. I could range it on all types of throws from 300-425+.

Stability/Flight/Control:
-To me the stabilty fits right inbetween a OLF and OLS. At low speeds, and with nose up it holds a flat hyzer. At high speeds with a slight hyzer it locks in flat until about 350 where it would track right for the next 50-75 ft. This is the classic flight of a beat up OLF. It's just not quite as long as my good OLFs, hence why I said a "tweeners tweener" earlier. It powers down like an FD, but booms like an OLF/OLS. Holds a flip, anny or turnover out of the box. Rolls like a brand new QOLS, it just goes straight and keeps going. Had one get short of 400ft

I threw rollers, flips, hyzer, turnovers, nose up flex shots and a few 360s. This disc responded with the expected flight. It's rare I pick up a new driver to test at Disc Nation and it can hold everything I "throw" at it. It's a really good driver that just about any player can put in the bag and figure out how to use it. It's one the few drivers I could pick up off the shelf and not lose a beat(up till now only the eagle and OLF did that for me).
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Re: MVP's new driver -- Volt

Postby sunspot » Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:30 pm

Is it easier to get up to speed than a PD?

To me the stabilty fits right inbetween a OLF and OLS.


A premium version of a PPD?

I'm trying to wrap my mind around what it would fly like for me. I throw around 380-400 with PDs. From what I have seen on Mike's videos and what people have said, this seems to be fairly versatile.
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Re: MVP's new driver -- Volt

Postby discspeed » Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:36 pm

It has more movement in the flight than a PPD.
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Re: MVP's new driver -- Volt

Postby zj1002 » Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:52 pm

If I could have written something negative I would have

If this makes since, I try to test discs based on what the disc "is", rather than what I need it to be. I take a disc and throw it on all types of shots, with different nose angles. Some discs don't respond with a reliable flight on these tests.

I really do think the design is great. Very few discs can shape lines like this out of the box. Will it hold 425ft seeping hyzers? No not really, it just wants to go straight. Can it handle a headwind as well as a CPD or QOLF, nope not even close. The disc is easy to read/learn and will be great on technical courses. Easier to range than the MVP putters :D

When ZAM and myself tried to land them next to a pole 325ft out, all mine ended at the same distance about 10ft long on 5 different types of lines(I don't usually power down drivers).
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