CloudySkyJedi wrote:On another topic, is there a recommended app for an iPhone for recording and uploading vids? I'm not about to go buy a video camera just to get my throw on this site for critique.
CloudySkyJedi wrote:After practicing this weekend, I think I'm a lot closer to understanding how the timing of the hips / shoulders generate a proper throw. As these two things happen somewhat correctly, actively pushing the left foot causes the right leg / foot to naturally pivot on their own accord; so it's simply a byproduct of other things happening correctly.
I also realized that before, I wasn't bending my knee enough if at all.
Now the only trick is getting down the timing of everything else. It seems like now with my new found body movements the disc is coming out about 20ish degrees late of what my feet are in line with. This, I believe comes down to the timing of it all.
How close is this to the order of the kinetic chain?
Right Big toe touches ground, hips begin to rotate pushing right heel into ground foot oriented perpendicular to target. Disc is paused for a micro second while this happens.
Next disc needs to move into the pocket with a smooth movement that is soft in muscle firings, with attention to where elbow is pointing. Disc needs to "clear" or be in front of left pec during contraction, while engaging inside forearm muscles to curl wrist and "put it in the pocket."
Next, you're looking for a torso / shoulder rotation coupled with a tendon bounce then the wrist starts to reverse directions and begin opening. Forearm muscles begin to wake up because of directional change of disc. This it the beginning of the disc pivot.
After getting it in the pocket, left leg pushes down creating weight forward characteristics while right heel / leg begin to pivot, as torso, shoulders continue to open, wrist continues pivoting disc.
Grip and pinch now kick in on the last 12 inches or so of the extension to hang on to the disc past the critical point of early releases, slips and micro slips while wrist fully extends. The force and power of the pinch need to be much stronger than any other muscle firings thus far in the throw.
The goal is to time a full disc pivot and pinch with all the shoulder, torso, and lower body movements so that everything results in a BANG when the arm reaches its full length pointed at the target.
At this point, the right heel should have pivoted pointing at or beyond the target (depending on power of throw). Hips and shoulders should be open, and facing at or near perpendicular to target. While the disc has bounced from right pec and done a full pivot and wrist has completely opened before disc has left the hand.
All of this leads to an outflow of energy to the right, pulling away from target.
This may not be in the exact order, that's what I'm trying to figure out. But that's what I believe to be all the components of a good throw.
I know that this is off topic from the original post, but I wasn't understanding the weight shift and how it created power, but the only "symptom" I had was a shoddy foot pivot. The foot pivot has resolved, and now I'm trying to figure out the kinetic chain and the timings.
I feel like I know everything I need to be doing, but not doing it all correctly at the same time...
My typical miss has the disc leaving 20 or so degrees late of the target line. But with a full hits worth of force.
What am I missing?
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