JR wrote:Can you see how Will has the knees bent much more and they are directed against each other? Prepping a good push back with the right leg and the opposite with the left leg.
JR wrote:Contrasting that to the similarity in the right hip to left hip intersecting line being at the same angle as the right shoulder to left shoulder line you can see how you're more weight back.
JR wrote:Also you have the disc farther toward the right of the tee than Will.
JR wrote:You need to round the initial part of the throw or you'd hit yourself.
JR wrote:You were throwing so that tends to happen on the tee and many times people throw toward the basket. With a rhbh throw that leaves the right side of the tee behind their back. So you have the disc too far on the side of your back for a straight line pull. Like a mini 360 which extends the reach back distance which in the thesis of Carlsen was the only positive result correlating with the exit speed of the disc with a 95 % confidence level.
JR wrote:I meant where Will has his knees in that picture not what happens afterward. I suspect one of two things with Will's form. Either he's moving too fast for the left leg to push forward faster or he doesn't push due to not realizing the need or that he ain't performing the push despite thinking so. Or in that throw he is taking some power off. So a form flaw after that picture or intentional distance control. The real point of the knees is that in the picture he is in a good stance to rotate powerfully should he need to put top power into the effort. So it is not a useless thing to emulate.
JR wrote:Congratulations! That is a good distance increase in such a short time. It doesn't come naturally to all from the longer reach back because balance and strength issue may hamper proper execution robbing brain boy commanding automatically to not move down so your throw could get overtaken by the subconscience. It sounds that you have at least decent leg and core muscle power with enough body control to not spaz out each time turning the back toward the target. That phase can last for months for some when first trying to turn the back toward the target.
JR wrote:The body cast includes the arms as loose strings being automatically whipped around by the body movement. The bad thing is what Richard did because the arm movement is rounding. He is not leading with the elbow. The pause is for actively moving the arm forward with the right shoulder socket as the center of the rotation. When you exit the pause by turning the second 90 degree phase with the body and the disc at the right side the automated arm swing will keep the disc on the line if the legs, hips and shoulders move at the right time and in the correct order. The elbow has to straighten at the proper time to avoid late rounding too because it is the only way a disc move on a straight line when the rest of the lower body is turning right. The elbow chop has to be active muscle assisted for best acceleration and power. Richard doesn't seem to use any arm muscle power to straighten the arm. He should be accelerating in the end of the throw. Loose arm muscles make the late acceleration more explosive.
JR wrote:I met two golf instructors who also play disc golf here last summer. Cool that there are more. Was it Bubba Watson who said he only really learned to play golf after playing disc golf and learning course management on this side of the coin? Applying what he realized here to golf. I hear he's respected for his tight course management and placement skills in golf.
JR wrote:I'm too tired for a full reply so i'll get back to that later. I'd shorten the plant step between 6-10" at that speed. At a slower speed more and full speed not at all.
JR wrote:The thing to watch for is the right hip mobility in the joint that connects the leg to the hip. If you ever come against the movement range of that joint the plant step length needs to change. Shorter for slower speeds. See at about 3:40 you are flat footed with the right leg. Ouch time look at the way the ankle has twisted. That needs to go away.
JR wrote:I can confirm that thinking too much and of too many things ruins the execution of the throw in disc golf too. I preach a samurai trick of not having anything in your mind as a routine for a throw on the course. That is the ideal but after messing up you do need to change what you did wrong so you need to add safety measure against repeating the previous mistake. You can't let your form deteriorate or it can change to a poorer one for good. Practice and changing form is different at times. You need to practice like you compete too but not paying attention to what you do won't help in changing form either and will no teach you about detecting what you did wrong. Flow has you in a care free non thinking execution mode.
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