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Throwing 450+...

Postby pask2155 » Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:09 pm

Well thanks to this section I have gotten my throw up to averaging 380'-420' on a line drive. So I'm pretty consistant at 400'.

Now here's the question, to throw 450+ do you generally need to manipulate the flight of the disc? Meaning to throw this far should you throw a huge Anny or hyzer flip? Should it be higher then 10-20 ft off the ground (not a line drive) ect.
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Re: Throwing 450+...

Postby JHern » Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:14 pm

You can always throw farther by manipulating the flight of the disc, stable/under-stable will generally be longer, always. Some can throw 450' on a pure hyzer (most difficult), while others can only get to 450' by turning the disc over through apex.
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Re: Throwing 450+...

Postby JR » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:38 am

There are 500'+ hyzer throwers.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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Re: Throwing 450+...

Postby pask2155 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:46 pm

so is there any certain technique to throwing 450+? Or just keep trying to blast line drives and hope for the best?

I guess my question is... I'm throwing 400' consistantly now what to I do to keep moving forward in distance?
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Re: Throwing 450+...

Postby CatPredator » Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:58 pm

At some point, to increase distance, you need to increase acceleration and velocity. To do that, you need to work on refining your technique through coaching, video study, reading, and/or experimentation.
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Re: Throwing 450+...

Postby Stringbean » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:33 pm

Weight training can also help to a certain degree.
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Re: Throwing 450+...

Postby JHern » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:13 am

JR wrote:There are 500'+ hyzer throwers.


Who can throw 600+ turnovers

Max distance requires turning the disc over, not a line drive.
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Re: Throwing 450+...

Postby JR » Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:15 am

I don't throw to 450' but i think that flexibility, quick nerves and muscles and some muscle power is needed in addition to good form. There is no magic to 450' many people here throw there just using standard DGR advice.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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Re: Throwing 450+...

Postby pask2155 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:52 am

I guess that's my point... I wanna throw 450 golf shots. From you guys and the advice here with a slight tail wind and throwing annys I can get to 450-470' pretty consistantly. But not on a golf line. I was just wondering what the technique is for that if any...

But no doubt this forum took me from maxing at 330 to now I have thrown over 500' in strong winds a couple of times... But that's not reality. Golf shots is where it's at. So I guess as most disc are only rated and designed to fly 400-450 to get beyond is it always a manipulation of the flight of the disc or can you do line drives 450+?
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Re: Throwing 450+...

Postby keltik » Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:56 am

The technique for the 450+ golf shot is a secret.
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Re: Throwing 450+...

Postby garublador » Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:35 am

keltik wrote:The technique for the 450+ golf shot is a secret.
You hit the rail with the hammer on that one!
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Re: Throwing 450+...

Postby pask2155 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:20 am

keltik wrote:The technique for the 450+ golf shot is a secret.


I'm noticing.... because everyone has all these tips for breaking 300' and 350' but you hit 400' and it's all quite and there is nothing about how to gain an extra 20' or how to get 500'

I would like to see a thread blow up on "Your throwing 400', NOW WHAT?" That would be sick! Because as of now, there is really nothing, except we stare at Dan B.'s videos as they say he can throw a line drive 600'+ with a Saint but he doesn't hammer anything ... he uses the rail... so then we all go try to undo all we have done and it still sticks us at 400' with the occasional bomb to 430'... lol...

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Re: Throwing 450+...

Postby keltik » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:26 am

my last post was just a mildly humorous allusion to the "secret technique" thread.

Throwing far is more about timing than basic technique. Timing isn't something that can be readily taught. It is mainly felt. once you break 400-420 consistently it means that you are doing most everything right you just need to time the crushing hit better. and that timing is usually developed through hours and hours of practice. Blake is working on a way to teach this timing faster but I don't think he's made a unified theory yet. Even in his secret technique threads feel is discussed more often than any type of technique or drill. There comes a point where you're on your own. Kinda like after you graduate.
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Re: Throwing 450+...

Postby pask2155 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:46 am

oh man... I'm on my own... That means I have graduated! And I can now give advice on here rather than seek it! HAHAHA

I'm just being humorous... but there is tons on here about how to throw better and farther and it has helped me a ton! And I am very thankful for this... I just want to keep going further with all this... And any and all advice is appreciated... So if that means shut up and keep trying to hit is harder or time it better... i will I just want to know what to do next... and if timing is everything then I will work on timing...
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Re: Throwing 450+...

Postby JR » Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:12 am

Seeing as there are 500' hyzer throwers and flat shots go much farther than hyzers 500'+ flat shots are a reality and achievable. For you there are form issues to be changed mainly reaching back farther and actively turning the hips and the shoulders to the right of neutral before the disc has left later than the right pec position i imagine. i would say that you have 450' line drives in you based on the videos i've seen. Added distance is often a matter of getting on or more form issues right. So are you also moving the wrist actively to the right right before the rip and trying to stop the wrist abruptly with a steely stop? There is something to work on and those alone might push you up there. And never underestimate the sequence of events and timing many here call it the rhythm so that may help things to click for some too so it's worth mentioning.

After you've improved on the above topics you might not be at 450' but you could be. Let's see about what we can do net when we get there. If we run out of things to try hire a coach :-) Blake said that all throws beyond about 530' have a degree of luck in them in how the wind behaves and the best throwers can get up to that distance despite non optimal conditions fairly well. Not in those words but that is the idea.
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