Westside Kalevan Miekka (sword)

[BLURR]

The left is the sword. Right is a Wraith. 2nd pic is the Sword and 3rd pic is the wraith.

[Jeronimo]

Seriously dude? Are you eating(drinking) that Chia seed shit? barf.

[BLURR]

Seriously dude? Are you eating(drinking) that Chia seed shit? barf.

Been eating chia seeds for a few years now. Normally eat/drink them before/during/after long runs. But recently started throwing them in my water bottle at tournaments and have had pretty good results. It's like having a redbull all day long for the most part for me, but without the jitters of redbull.

[iacas]

Been eating chia seeds for a few years now. Normally eat/drink them before/during/after long runs. But recently started throwing them in my water bottle at tournaments and have had pretty good results. It's like having a redbull all day long for the most part for me, but without the jitters of redbull.

Born to Run fan?

[keltik]

is this Chia as in Chiapet? you're eating chiapet seeds?

[iacas]

is this Chia as in Chiapet? you're eating chiapet seeds?

Yes, he is. http://www.nuts.com/cookingbaking/chia- ... emium.html

[BLURR]

Been eating chia seeds for a few years now. Normally eat/drink them before/during/after long runs. But recently started throwing them in my water bottle at tournaments and have had pretty good results. It's like having a redbull all day long for the most part for me, but without the jitters of redbull.

Born to Run fan?

Oddly enough, I have been eating them for a few years now. And a few months ago one of my coworkers asked me if I had read born to run and I had never heard of it. So, he brought in his copy for me to read. I have since tried the mix that he talks about in that book. Not much of a fan. I would rather just throw some in my water bottle and let them soak. I did however get a good laugh out of the fact that my hippy running buddy was ahead of the curve on the whole chia seed thing.

Now, back to the Sword discussion. I threw it a few more times today and was able to get a very reliable hyzer flip out of it. It was able to fly as far as my stable star destroyer. It held its own against my worn star wraith too. It is a pretty easy disc to get some distance out of. Nothing ground breaking by any means. Like a better Flow.

[dgdave]

I've always thought the VP swords were like a flow/Destroyer mix. Flowstroyer if you will

[keltik]

Flowstroyer?? interesting

[JR]

Flowstroyer is a good description but more like Destro on all counts except with more Flow like fade maybe in between half way. For Blurr's power a VIP would be more reliable.

[sunspot]

Anybody still tossing these?

[discspeed]

Yep. I've got 169 & 175 VIPs in the bag and they are my primary distance drivers.

These are great drivers and can do just about anything for me...I use them BH and FH. My favorite thing about them is that they fly great in VIP plastic, and VIP plastic is awesome. The 175 in my bag is the original one I tested a long time ago (I'd have to consult my bag thread to see how long, but it's been well over a year) and it has not really gotten any less stable since it's initial break in (it seemed to go from slightly overstable to straight/slightly understable fairly quickly). None of Innova/Discraft's drivers fly anything like the Sword in Champ/Z, so if I wanted something similar from them I would have to deal with much less durable plastic and a lot more tinkering. I'd even venture to say that my 175 Sword is the best distance driver I've ever had in my bag...Largely because I either lose D drivers in the water or they break in too fast. Also, most of the people I play with would tell you that I'm better with my Swords than I've been with anything else...I can throw just about any D driver and get decent results, but I can't throw the line I visualize over and over like I can with the Sword.

[JR]

People should still throw these.

[Fightingthetide]

Question - On golf lines, I'm throwing Star/Champ Teebirds to 325'-375' and a flat Star Destroyer (*DS) 350'-400'. Just based on my power level, would a Sword fit the bill for me as a workhorse distance driver?

I'm thinking 2 VIP's and 1 or 2 TP's for tailwind shots...and complimenting them with an S PD2 for headwinds.

This would be to replace my *DS

[keltik]

I've really been digging this disc. It does what I wanted those Champ Wraiths I sold to do.

FTT I'm not sure it would do anything really different from the Destroyer. less fade maybe? It feels like a wraith but flies like a good Destroyer. I may be off on that assessment.