Roottori's Bag

[JR]

From the looks in the yard we got about 30 cm of snow in one day and the wind was baaad.

[Roottori]

I figured since it's winter and there's no possibility to play any serious disc golf, it would be good time to give a whirl to some new plastic.

Are there any other mids than Roc that could handle all of my midrange shots in various stages of wear? I'm really getting tired of Innova and what they are doing with their molds. Wherever I go to look for some new Rocs, all I can find is poppy-top domey Rocs that are made of that craptastic soft blend of DX. They also have slanted rims which I don't like. So, are there any? I could use two molds, if there isn't just one mold that could do everything. I have my eye on Buzzzes, Midaris, MVP mids and Ghosts, so basically anything Innova hasn't put its dirty hands on.

Any feedback on these?

[JR]

I haven't thrown Ghosts but there are so many different stabilities you can get from Buzzes in different plastics when new let alone broken in that you should be golden with them.

[Roottori]

Cool, thanks for your input JR! I guess I could start with Z for stable/overstable, X that would start breaking in to fill the turnover slot and D for understable until I beat X enough. Does that sound like a plan?

[JR]

Perhaps not exactly and here having different power makes estimation difficult. So i'd start with just one to see how it flies for you. Naturally there are variations in shape thus stability of discs within the same plastic. At your power the Z is likely pretty hard fading with any height so it should fill your description in any other case but stiff headwinds. At my power the X flips when new but it might be the straightest Buzz for the longest time at your power and if it ain't it will still be a grippy disc albeit not quite as much as the FLX. So the question that is most relevant now is probably do you throw now and how much power you lose and how quickly do you want the disc to become the best for you sand just what stability is that? Those considerations decide whether the best option is the X, FLX or the Z. Z is slick, FLX is floppy and X is in between but on the firmer side with fairly good winter grip.

[Roottori]

Well yeah, I guess that makes sense. I think I´ll start with one X and maybe one Z, and build it up from there if needed.

[badfinger]

I figured since it's winter and there's no possibility to play any serious disc golf, it would be good time to give a whirl to some new plastic.

Are there any other mids than Roc that could handle all of my midrange shots in various stages of wear? I'm really getting tired of Innova and what they are doing with their molds. Wherever I go to look for some new Rocs, all I can find is poppy-top domey Rocs that are made of that craptastic soft blend of DX. They also have slanted rims which I don't like. So, are there any? I could use two molds, if there isn't just one mold that could do everything. I have my eye on Buzzzes, Midaris, MVP mids and Ghosts, so basically anything Innova hasn't put its dirty hands on.

Any feedback on these?

I have recently begun playing with Lat64 Pain molds quite often. Not sure if it would feel right in your hand, but there is only one way to find out.

[Roottori]

Thank you for your suggestion, badfinger. Unfortunately Latitude´s lack of base/midline plastic pushes me away from their discs though, so I think I´ll leave Pain on the store shelves. If Latitude came up with Pro/X/whatever kind of plastic, their discs would be much more appealing to me.

[Roottori]

A quick update here. This is what my bag looks like at the moment.

2x G9i Wizard 175g - putting
Soft Wizard 175g - upshots and drives

X Comet 180g - understable
ESP Comet 180g - straight
Z Comet 180g - straight to overstable
KC Roc 180g - Overstable

2x DX Eagle-X 175g - beat, understable
2x DX Eagle-X 175g - slightly seasoned, quite straight
2x Champion Eagle X 175g - overstable
2x Z Predator 175g - meathook
Pro Beast 169g - understable
Pro Beast 175g - slightly understable
Champion Beast 175g - overstablish


Wizards are fine (I just need more Softs for throwing, I'll save my firms for putting) and Comets are great! Eagle is the workhorse of my bag, I really throw one beat, one straight and one overstable but I want to have backup if I happen to lose one. The same goes for Predator. Beasts are okey, but I still don't really like them. I find them little bit squirrely and unpredictable, probably due to the lack of fade. So I usually just grab an Eagle and let it do its thing.

I just don't know what kind of distance driver I should use. OLF's or PD's would be in the speed range I'm comfortable with, but I feel like they would overlap too much with my Eagles. And when I go up the speed scale to Wraiths and Destroyers, well, I don't throw far enough to make them work and I can't get a good grip of their wide rims. Maybe I'll just be old school and throw nothing but Comets and Eagles, I don't know.