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Re: Dave Feldberg part of Latitude 64° team

Postby JHern » Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:35 pm

Crazy how his bag has so many more drivers than mids/putters, I don't think I've ever seen another pro with that many (and Scottsdale/Fountain Hills aren't particularly long courses, either).
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Re: Dave Feldberg part of Latitude 64° team

Postby kern9787 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:33 pm

JHern wrote:Crazy how his bag has so many more drivers than mids/putters, I don't think I've ever seen another pro with that many (and Scottsdale/Fountain Hills aren't particularly long courses, either).


I think part of it is finding something confortable. Being primarily a roc thrower myself, its a HUGE change going to latitude mids. Going from mostly baseline plastic in rocs to opto/GL plastics for lat64's mids was probably the toughest for me to get used to. I haven't thrown a fugitive or warship yet, and of course the mace could be the answer to this when its release, but I haven't thrown a latitude mid yet that I could throw fairly hard and have it be almost completely straight, good HSS, and low LSS like you can get out of a roc. Pains have the HSS down, but fade more than a roc does. Fuses are capable of similar lines, but you have to really back off and finesse them (although they can, with the right lines, handle a bit of power too). I've only thrown one core, but it didn't really have it either, but was probably the closest.

Your midranges should be your second most intimate group of discs (behind putters). And this is easily lat64's weakest part of the lineup (although they are improving).
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Re: Dave Feldberg part of Latitude 64° team

Postby JHern » Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:55 pm

kern9787 wrote:Your midranges should be your second most intimate group of discs (behind putters). And this is easily lat64's weakest part of the lineup (although they are improving).


Agree 100%. The Fuse seems like the best option for straight tunnel shots/straight finishes, but you have to get the angles just right.

Latitude 64 needs to make a Buzzz. I hear Prodigy is doing just that.
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Re: Dave Feldberg part of Latitude 64° team

Postby Jeronimo » Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:59 pm

what'shisname wrote:
Jeronimo wrote:Aight, he's cool again.

It was the crocs that convinced you, ya?


and the forest growing off his face.
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Re: Dave Feldberg part of Latitude 64° team

Postby Pat » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:00 pm

Is it mentioned anywhere how Dave feels about the slanted rim of some of the Lat drivers?
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Re: Dave Feldberg part of Latitude 64° team

Postby Varsi » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:36 pm

Mixed Bag Madness wrote:
Varsi wrote:In this one



Nice looking voodoo bag there....


He also did a review on that bag. Same channel.
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Re: Dave Feldberg part of Latitude 64° team

Postby inthedrift » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:57 pm

Jeronimo wrote:
what'shisname wrote:
Jeronimo wrote:Aight, he's cool again.

It was the crocs that convinced you, ya?


and the forest growing off his face.


He should check and see if there are any birds nesting in there
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Re: Dave Feldberg part of Latitude 64° team

Postby discmonkey42 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:06 am

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Re: Dave Feldberg part of Latitude 64° team

Postby JR » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:22 am

kern9787 wrote:
JHern wrote:Crazy how his bag has so many more drivers than mids/putters, I don't think I've ever seen another pro with that many (and Scottsdale/Fountain Hills aren't particularly long courses, either).


I think part of it is finding something confortable. Being primarily a roc thrower myself, its a HUGE change going to latitude mids. Going from mostly baseline plastic in rocs to opto/GL plastics for lat64's mids was probably the toughest for me to get used to. I haven't thrown a fugitive or warship yet, and of course the mace could be the answer to this when its release, but I haven't thrown a latitude mid yet that I could throw fairly hard and have it be almost completely straight, good HSS, and low LSS like you can get out of a roc. Pains have the HSS down, but fade more than a roc does. Fuses are capable of similar lines, but you have to really back off and finesse them (although they can, with the right lines, handle a bit of power too). I've only thrown one core, but it didn't really have it either, but was probably the closest.

Your midranges should be your second most intimate group of discs (behind putters). And this is easily lat64's weakest part of the lineup (although they are improving).


This is weird when you consider what Tomas said in a video interview we did with him at the Scandinavian Open 2010. I asked what are his thoughts about driving with putters mentioning his 400' putter drives with Aviars when he took two doubles open world titles in 1993 &4 and he replied among other things that these days he teaches people to use mids. One would think that in that case mids should be the center piece of throwing and as such Latitude should make the best mids around to fulfill that ends to a means in the best possible way.

The Mace sounds good but not at all like a perfect line laser from initial third hand info. if it is a Wasp with more glide it is way too LSS even though there is HSS. The only way to get a straight line from a disc like that is to put immense power into it or throw it so low that it touches the ground before the fade starts and that leads to a skip. Probably a huge left finishing one so again in a tight hole the disc would be in the rough if the distance is too long to get to the green.

To answer another post What Dave thinks about plus configuration might not be what he is allowed to say out loud. He switched from a company making pretty radically slanted rims to one making mostly minor slants that slip out way more rarely. Slants anyway. So maybe he is not bothered too much by them in his own game. Which might be different from an opinion about the use of slants for all disc golfers.
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Re: Dave Feldberg part of Latitude 64° team

Postby Jeronimo » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:40 pm

Well considering his praise of the Blitz in that video, I'd say the slanted rim is not a factor of discontent for him.
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Re: Dave Feldberg part of Latitude 64° team

Postby keltik » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:53 pm

JR wrote:This is weird when you consider what Tomas said in a video interview we did with him at the Scandinavian Open 2010. I asked what are his thoughts about driving with putters mentioning his 400' putter drives with Aviars when he took two doubles open world titles in 1993 &4 and he replied among other things that these days he teaches people to use mids. One would think that in that case mids should be the center piece of throwing and as such Latitude should make the best mids around to fulfill that ends to a means in the best possible way.

The Mace sounds good but not at all like a perfect line laser from initial third hand info. if it is a Wasp with more glide it is way too LSS even though there is HSS. The only way to get a straight line from a disc like that is to put immense power into it or throw it so low that it touches the ground before the fade starts and that leads to a skip. Probably a huge left finishing one so again in a tight hole the disc would be in the rough if the distance is too long to get to the green.

To answer another post What Dave thinks about plus configuration might not be what he is allowed to say out loud. He switched from a company making pretty radically slanted rims to one making mostly minor slants that slip out way more rarely. Slants anyway. So maybe he is not bothered too much by them in his own game. Which might be different from an opinion about the use of slants for all disc golfers.


I agree that it does seem strange that Tomas has been kinda sheepish in his putter engineering. He was a monster with an Aviar and Lat drug their feet in putting out an Opto Pure. But there may be more to that than we realize. I still love Lat as a company and throw pretty much anything they mold.

Feldberg said in the video that until he tried the Sinus he had never thrown a putter in competition. I think I read somewhere else that Feldy had always been a powered down driver thrower. Even his old Innova bag had the same ratio of drivers to non drivers and he listed the Roc as an approach disc. I think his style of play was to almost always throw a driver. He did use the Eagle like scalpel.

And yes about Lat mids it has been frustrating. The Fuse is an excellent disc but it can be hard to make it fade or go left without hyzer. The Core is almost there but it is almost like a tweener disc. It flies like a beat up Buzzz but about 20-30ft longer. And it flies better when you lean on it. The Pain can be touchy (or at least mine is). The Mace is a very attractive offering but my DG spending is on hold until about August. I do like the Mace being offered in Zero Hard. I hope they offer more discs in this plastic especially their slower drivers.
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Re: Dave Feldberg part of Latitude 64° team

Postby Parks » Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:46 pm

keltik wrote:I think I read somewhere else that Feldy had always been a powered down driver thrower. Even his old Innova bag had the same ratio of drivers to non drivers and he listed the Roc as an approach disc. I think his style of play was to almost always throw a driver. He did use the Eagle like scalpel.


When I played with him a couple years ago he was throwing Eagles on most holes from 225-350. I asked him why he didn't throw Rocs on the shorter ones and he just said he was comfortable with the Eagle and can make it do anything he wants without having to throw it hard.
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Re: Dave Feldberg part of Latitude 64° team

Postby keltik » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:09 pm

What's he like to play with Parks?
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Re: Dave Feldberg part of Latitude 64° team

Postby Parks » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:44 pm

It was just a B-tier where he had zero chance of not taking first so he was pretty relaxed and not in super competition mode. I don't think he got my sense of humor though. I was just fucking around with him on a 500' hole with water on the right, saying "last year Avery laid up safe about 450' on the left, and he throws longer than you right?" And he gets all fired up saying he's gonna deuce it before the tournament is over (it was three rounds on the same course) and throws a roller 60 feet past it into some bushes. I can't remember if he made the putt or not, but I thought it was pretty funny.
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Re: Dave Feldberg part of Latitude 64° team

Postby keltik » Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:05 pm

Parks wrote:It was just a B-tier where he had zero chance of not taking first so he was pretty relaxed and not in super competition mode. I don't think he got my sense of humor though. I was just fucking around with him on a 500' hole with water on the right, saying "last year Avery laid up safe about 450' on the left, and he throws longer than you right?" And he gets all fired up saying he's gonna deuce it before the tournament is over (it was three rounds on the same course) and throws a roller 60 feet past it into some bushes. I can't remember if he made the putt or not, but I thought it was pretty funny.


there is a whole lot of win in that post.
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