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Re: MVP Shock

Postby discspeed » Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:06 am

discmonkey42 wrote:Am I missing something, or have I just not learned to throw the Volt and Shock yet as it was their first day in my hands?

And how do I know if I have a 1st or 2nd run Shock (sorry if I missed that info and question is redundant)?


I would definitely throw them some more and see if the distance gap narrows. I've had PDs that I could throw farther than the Volt in the field, but for fairway driver type golf lines on the course I find them pretty interchangeable. The yellow champystar PDs I've had in my bag the longest do not glide too well, so the MVP drivers are easily as long or longer than those are. Depending on what weights you are throwing the MVP drivers in, perhaps you should go lighter. So far I've been liking their drivers 172-173 more than the max weights.

If your Shock was similar to your Volt then it is probably an early one, if it was considerably more HSS and LSS then it is probably a newer one.
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Re: MVP Shock

Postby discmonkey42 » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:08 am

discspeed wrote:
discmonkey42 wrote:Am I missing something, or have I just not learned to throw the Volt and Shock yet as it was their first day in my hands?

And how do I know if I have a 1st or 2nd run Shock (sorry if I missed that info and question is redundant)?


I would definitely throw them some more and see if the distance gap narrows. I've had PDs that I could throw farther than the Volt in the field, but for fairway driver type golf lines on the course I find them pretty interchangeable. The yellow champystar PDs I've had in my bag the longest do not glide too well, so the MVP drivers are easily as long or longer than those are. Depending on what weights you are throwing the MVP drivers in, perhaps you should go lighter. So far I've been liking their drivers 172-173 more than the max weights.

If your Shock was similar to your Volt then it is probably an early one, if it was considerably more HSS and LSS then it is probably a newer one.


Thanks. Yeah, the Shock I have definitely does not fade much more than the Volt and it has high speed turn very similar to my OLFs. Will have to pick one up on line to compare. All 3 drivers I bought are 170, so not a weight issue. I'll definitely throw the MVPs a bunch more and see how the distance gap is. Thanks for the feedback!
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Re: MVP Shock

Postby discspeed » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:06 pm

I'm finding the Shock to pretty much be MVP's EX. It is faster with a bit more range, but the flight is very similar. The new Shocks are comparable to the older clear KC EXs (overstable but not FB overstable) and the early ones are flying like SEXs.
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Re: MVP Shock

Postby Druid » Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:33 pm

I've been throwing a pair of 173 shocks for a couple of weeks now. They're more overstable than I thought they would be. Somewhere between a teebird and firebird I'd say, but much closer to the firebird. (It's tough for me to compare to the FB for sure, cause mine is seasoned. I have a new-ish Predator though, and that is certainly beefier than the shock. I can throw the same shots though by simply throwing on a slight hyzer line. I no longer carry the pred.) I throw them forehand, backhand and for thumbers. I thought the shock would flip with a forehand, but they seem to perform well. (I still trust my trident for this shot more.) For thumbers, they fly almost as far as anything else I have, with the exception of the Z flick and the XxX. (I have two champion whippets BTW. They are highly overrated for thumbers IMHO.)
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Re: MVP Shock

Postby Jeronimo » Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:24 pm

I've just about had it with MVP's discs at this point. I picked up a Shock this weekend to toss around, and the damn thing might as well be a Roadrunner. If this keeps up I won't even look their way again. I was expecting the disc I've seen Mike tossing around, not this flippy heap o crap.
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Re: MVP Shock

Postby Flipflat » Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:29 pm

First run is flippy, from what's been posted
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Re: MVP Shock

Postby ForeverBlue232 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:48 am

I got a shock recently, and its definitely not flippy at all. I guess I got a newer run one.
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Re: MVP Shock

Postby discmonkey42 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:24 am

Jeronimo wrote:I've just about had it with MVP's discs at this point. I picked up a Shock this weekend to toss around, and the damn thing might as well be a Roadrunner. If this keeps up I won't even look their way again. I was expecting the disc I've seen Mike tossing around, not this flippy heap o crap.


Yep, first Shock I tried was not stable. Second is a pig. Big difference from first run to second. I wouldn't judge the entire disc lineup on this, though. Not to mention that I think Mike C could post a video of him throwing pretty much any disc and it would make that disc look pretty damn good.

Pick up a Tangent or an Axis (but if you only did one, a Tangent). It will give you an entirely different perception of MVP. Their drivers are nice, and while in my bag now for trial may or may not stay there. Their mids, on the other hand, are pretty much there to stay.
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Re: MVP Shock

Postby Jeronimo » Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:53 am

discmonkey42 wrote:
Jeronimo wrote:I've just about had it with MVP's discs at this point. I picked up a Shock this weekend to toss around, and the damn thing might as well be a Roadrunner. If this keeps up I won't even look their way again. I was expecting the disc I've seen Mike tossing around, not this flippy heap o crap.


Yep, first Shock I tried was not stable. Second is a pig. Big difference from first run to second. I wouldn't judge the entire disc lineup on this, though. Not to mention that I think Mike C could post a video of him throwing pretty much any disc and it would make that disc look pretty damn good.

Pick up a Tangent or an Axis (but if you only did one, a Tangent). It will give you an entirely different perception of MVP. Their drivers are nice, and while in my bag now for trial may or may not stay there. Their mids, on the other hand, are pretty much there to stay.


I have probably 30 MVP discs at this point covering every new mold they've released. I have Ions that fly completely different from one another, Vectors that couldn't be more black and white in their stabilities, Amps that range from ridiculously useless to pretty damn nice, and Volts that are money and some that are rollers.

I am annoyed, my patience is thinning. All discs (from all manufacturers) need run #'s in the stamps, from now on.
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Re: MVP Shock

Postby Jeronimo » Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:55 am

But thanks for the info guys, I'll see if I can somehow find a newer run to try. Not an easy thing to do when all the shops around are mom & pops that have pretty low inventory turnovers.
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Re: MVP Shock

Postby discmonkey42 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:59 am

Jeronimo wrote:I am annoyed, my patience is thinning. All discs (from all manufacturers) need run #'s in the stamps, from now on.


This.
It's why I've had pretty much only Millennium drivers in my bag for the last 5 years.
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Re: MVP Shock

Postby discspeed » Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:51 pm

It's tough pioneering molding techniques. There is a strong overall trend towards continued improvement fwiw.

I hear there is a guy with knowledge of and access to MVP discs who can get you what you want if you ask... :idea:
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Re: MVP Shock

Postby discspeed » Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:52 pm

discmonkey42 wrote:
Jeronimo wrote:I am annoyed, my patience is thinning. All discs (from all manufacturers) need run #'s in the stamps, from now on.


This.
It's why I've had pretty much only Millennium drivers in my bag for the last 5 years.


Wait for Leopard to pop up and comment on how much Innova cares about the accuracy of those numbers...
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Re: MVP Shock

Postby Leopard » Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:47 am

discspeed wrote:
discmonkey42 wrote:
Jeronimo wrote:I am annoyed, my patience is thinning. All discs (from all manufacturers) need run #'s in the stamps, from now on.


This.
It's why I've had pretty much only Millennium drivers in my bag for the last 5 years.


Wait for Leopard to pop up and comment on how much Innova cares about the accuracy of those numbers...

Innova turns the caring machine up extra high for this. That's how they make every single disc out of a run exactly the same. Luckily you just match the numbers and you're good to go!

This and other simplistic fantasies brought to you by some disc golf marketing guy.
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Re: MVP Shock

Postby tbird888 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:48 am

Leopard wrote:
discspeed wrote:
discmonkey42 wrote:
Jeronimo wrote:I am annoyed, my patience is thinning. All discs (from all manufacturers) need run #'s in the stamps, from now on.


This.
It's why I've had pretty much only Millennium drivers in my bag for the last 5 years.


Wait for Leopard to pop up and comment on how much Innova cares about the accuracy of those numbers...

Innova turns the caring machine up extra high for this. That's how they make every single disc out of a run exactly the same. Luckily you just match the numbers and you're good to go!

This and other simplistic fantasies brought to you by some disc golf marketing guy.

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