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Postby Fightingthetide » Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:18 pm

Are production runs coming out in plus molds?
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Re: Innova Tern

Postby discspeed » Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:53 pm

7ontheline wrote:Can anyone compare the Champ Tern vs. Lucid/Bio Trespass and or VIP Sword?


I have a VIP Sword in the bag with my Tern. The Tern is longer and more understable. There is more movement in the Tern's flight and a bit more late LSS as well.
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Re: Innova Tern

Postby discspeed » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:24 pm

Fightingthetide wrote:Are production runs coming out in plus molds?


Nope. All of my production Stars and Champs have darn near 90 degree sidewalls.
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Postby Fightingthetide » Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:53 pm

discspeed wrote:
Fightingthetide wrote:Are production runs coming out in plus molds?


Nope. All of my production Stars and Champs have darn near 90 degree sidewalls.


Well, for those who want to know, it seems the tournament stamped Terns are plus molds.
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Re: Innova Tern

Postby JR » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:45 am

discspeed wrote:
7ontheline wrote:Can anyone compare the Champ Tern vs. Lucid/Bio Trespass and or VIP Sword?


I have a VIP Sword in the bag with my Tern. The Tern is longer and more understable. There is more movement in the Tern's flight and a bit more late LSS as well.


That surprised me. I have not thrown Terns but i thought it was a close relative to the flippier Pro Katanas. And those are on par roughly with the later than first run Swords. Sounds like there is too much fade to get ultimate distance then but even the least fading fast disc that is not a total flipper the D3 has too much LSS to finish straight with my power which is seriously lacking in spin to keep the Sword from losing D from the fade. Heck even the Pro Katanas fade on me. And the flip monsters like Vulcans. Sounds like i'll save my money by not buying a Tern then.
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Re: Innova Tern

Postby discspeed » Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:33 am

The early Terns (fundraisers) were really understable. The Stars have a later fade if you only tried Champs.
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Postby Fightingthetide » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:23 am

discspeed wrote:The early Terns (fundraisers) were really understable. The Stars have a later fade if you only tried Champs.


What distances are you getting out of your Stars vs. Champs?

I'm really intrigued by this disc. Every speed 12+ disc I've tried out for max D has either been too hard to dial in or faded too soon to be of use.
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Re: Innova Tern

Postby 7ontheline » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:02 am

I see Innova is listing the champ as -2,2 and the star -4,2 so if the fade in star is later and actually less than the champ version, it sounds like a touch slower Vulcan to me.

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Postby Fightingthetide » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:40 pm

Got out to throw my 164 Champ Tern. It's surprising stable with great glide and a late fade, like others have already said...so I have nothing new to add.

It gave me the impression that it was 12/5/-1/2 at 375'-400' of power, even with a mild headwind. Granted, it's pretty much new and I didn't run it through its paces because the course I played didn't call for it.
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Re: Innova Tern

Postby money 21 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:43 pm

i agree with disc speed that the stars are a little more hss then the champs. I wish they made a blizzard.
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Re: Innova Tern

Postby Stringbean » Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:55 pm

So the -4, 2 rating on Star plastic is way off?
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Postby Fightingthetide » Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:43 pm

That can't be. I compared the lowest PLH Champ in my local store with Stars and the Stars came out lower, hands down.
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Re: Innova Tern

Postby ljerome » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:42 pm

I have not thrown the Star but the Innova disc chart gives the Champ the exact same rating as the Wahoo. No way the Tern turns like the Wahoo. A good bit more HSS. I agree with fightingthetide 12/5/-1/2 which matches the Teedevil rating but I have never thrown that disc.
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Re: Innova Tern

Postby money 21 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:39 pm

the star i have doesn't seem to have as much left to right movement as my champs. The star i have just flie really straight and has a late smooth fade. the champs all have this shallow s curve turning and then coming back and fade out quicker. this said I am a 350' guy and i am throw discs in the 160's so my results might be different.

Also so i miss read Disc speed post earlier. But i do agree the star fades late in flight then the champ.
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Re: Innova Tern

Postby NoLifeLeft » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:35 pm

I ordered a Star and a Champ at the same time and the parting line on my pair is identical. My Champ has a slightly higher dome. The two fly very similar for me (about -2/2, definitely not -4/2). I feel like a get a better pull on the Star because of the grip.
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