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Got some holes in the bag...help

Postby ranger » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:03 pm

Im looking to fill some holes in my bag.

- overstable driver

champion wraith or a VIP giant are currently on the radar


- sidearm distance disc

I'm not great with sidearm but I don't get a lot of distance with the firebird. Maybe the wraith for this as well...


- Straight mid

I'm finally giving up the Buzzz. I just can't keep it in the air or hold the line I need. I want something I can really control.


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Re: Got some holes in the bag...help

Postby aerodriver » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:27 pm

Like you suggested you could probably get your overstable driver and sidearm distance in the same disc. I'd probably go with slower discs, speed 9 or 10 if you're "not great" with sidearms. There's no harm in getting a slower overstable disc either, they're a good medium between ripping the disc hard trying to get it to fly straight and spiking/skipping every shot.

While I gave up the Buzzz in favor of Warships, I don't think I ever got a line I didn't like or a backhand that wasn't accurate. Is it the rim depth that's throwing you off?
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Re: Got some holes in the bag...help

Postby ranger » Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:23 am

hmmm

I never thought aboutthe rim but it could be the issue. Maybe I also just suck with a z Buzzz.

It's funny you mention the warship. I was just about to try one.

What speed 9 or 10 disc would you recommend?
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Re: Got some holes in the bag...help

Postby slowarm » Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:38 am

Overstable/Sidewarm distance - Wraith is a good choice, but if you feel it's too much a disc, take a step down in speed and try the Orc. For sidearm a Star Beast would also work well, but then you need to learn to throw it smoothly. There are so many ways to throw sidearm, I get best results with a Star Valk/Beast (around 330'-350') and a friend of mine throws about 400' with a seriously overstable Destroyer.

As a Buzzz-thrower can't really comment the mid-range question, but maybe a S- or P-MD2 would suit you. The only Warship I've tried was too understable to be reliable. Also, it was more in fairway range. (I gave it to a beginner who asked me to get him his first driver. He was able to throw it up to 260' and was very happy with it.)
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Re: Got some holes in the bag...help

Postby aerodriver » Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:39 am

Probably Firebird would be most popular in this spot, Predator second. An XXX from Lat. 64 if you're into their stuff right now!
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Re: Got some holes in the bag...help

Postby slowarm » Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:44 am

aerodriver wrote:Probably Firebird would be most popular in this spot, Predator second. An XXX from Lat. 64 if you're into their stuff right now!


Gee, you listed the truely overstable discs. I thought he was talking about distance :o
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Re: Got some holes in the bag...help

Postby ranger » Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:48 am

also

I can't throw a new FB to save my life
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Re: Got some holes in the bag...help

Postby Fightingthetide » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:54 pm

slowarm wrote:
aerodriver wrote:Probably Firebird would be most popular in this spot, Predator second. An XXX from Lat. 64 if you're into their stuff right now!


Gee, you listed the truely overstable discs. I thought he was talking about distance :o


Do you have a disc for thumbers and other overhand/trick shots? Firebirds are great for that.

I think the Wraith is an excellent driver for someone learning to throw sidearm. I got some of my longest RHFH throws with a beat, domey Star Wraith.
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Re: Got some holes in the bag...help

Postby ranger » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:02 pm

that's good info


Do they make the FB with a plus mold?
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Re: Got some holes in the bag...help

Postby discmonkey42 » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:08 pm

Truth is a great Buzzz alternate.
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Re: Got some holes in the bag...help

Postby Fightingthetide » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:07 pm

ranger wrote:that's good info


Do they make the FB with a plus mold?


Not that I know of.
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Re: Got some holes in the bag...help

Postby ranger » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:17 pm

ugh

I guess I just hate champ FB
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Re: Got some holes in the bag...help

Postby JR » Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:17 pm

If the Wraith is too unpredictable fh you can clean the form or use the Giant. Coyote is way more versatile and does not need as much power as the Buzz. It is more hss than normal drooping outside edge Warships by a hair and longer. X Buzz is power hungry but flips a little and stays annied easier than z. Buzzes move a lot sideways per change of a degree in hyzer angle. Coyote and Warship are close to as touchy in sideways placement but easier.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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Re: Got some holes in the bag...help

Postby ranger » Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:02 am

Thanks for the tips.

How do you find the Giant for FH throws?

I did manage to find an old pearly champ orc in my stack of discs that has been helping me a bit with the fh shot. I know my form is still awful but it already feels better.
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Re: Got some holes in the bag...help

Postby JR » Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:28 pm

At least the very os initial release TP Giant i have is fine even in headwinds but i'm not throwing them far or anything sidearm. Normally under 300'.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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