mgilbert wrote:BentElbow11 wrote:Interesting...was there a big spread in weight of the 2 Saints you were throwing? Even in Opto Air discs it can make a noticeable difference. The other being the wind conditions, especially when throwing lighter weight 'Air' discs. The Saint is a pretty easy disc to throw straight and fairly long, especially in Opto Air. Good luck.
The first one was 150g, and the second one is 148g. Both were being thrown late in the evening in dead calm air - the only way to really compare two discs. I took the new one back out today, and if I throw it flat, it turns right, and never comes back, traveling about 250', landing 30 or 40 feet or more to the right of the throw line with no fade back whatsoever. If I put a few degrees of hyzer on it on release, it straightens up, turns a little right, and fades back to the left for a nice, straight "S" throw. The first sticky topic in this category is about inconsistencies in Latitude molds. Interesting read.
I've also got a Bolt and a King. The King is supposed to be more stable. It isn't. If I don't release the King on a hyzer, it turns right and never comes back, landing with no fade, well right of the throw line. The Bolt tends to go straight if released flat. Maybe I just throw weird.
"If I put a few degrees of hyzer on it on release, it straightens up, turns a little right, and fades back to the left for a nice, straight "S" throw."
This sounds more like how the Saint should fly...under adequate power.
There is inconsistency in Latitude 64 and other mfgrs molds from one run to the next, but it's usually related to the amount of dome or lack there of. That can change stability right there, especially PLH where the flat topped disc will pull the leading edge up, and the domey disc will result in it drooping down lower. Maybe match those 2 Saints up side by side and compare the amount of dome and PLH, see if there's a big variance.
I've always felt the Bolt and King are the same disc with different names. Again, discounting wildly inconsistent throws on your part, compare dome and PLH on the Bolt and King too.
Then there's differences in stability among the same mold based on which plastic. The three main contributors to flight variation within a mold are weight, plastic, and molding inconsistencies. Molding inconsistencies are a pain when buying new discs which you expect to fly as advertised, or when replacing discs, especially online.