BentElbow11 wrote:Well, the P-PD and MOLF are the same plastic, 'M' is Pro. Are you also saying that you couldn't beat up the plastic on that P-PD? Because after 2 years, with any kind of regular use, I can't imagine any variation of Innova Pro plastic not being fairly battered. If it's a harder blend of Pro, and max weight, then it's understandable that at least the stability might hold up longer. What? Are C-PD's glideless and therefore undesirable in that role?
Yeah, well aware that Millennium is Pro, as is P-Line. =)
The stiff ones are the ones that beat in instantly, and consistently so far, I'd assume it's because Pro inherently isn't as durable as premium plastics are, and the stiffness prevents it from absorbing the shocks and bouncing back. The springy ones really seem to absorb the knocks and spring back to original shape much much better.
I did manage to beat in one to handle my understable duties (it still wasn't "flippy", just controllably understable, and always came back at the end), I did the beating by throwing a lot of thumbers with it during normal play. The ones I didn't beat in like that though retained their stability very nicely over the two season stint as my main drivers. The max weight one is still nearly as overstable as my old S-PDs, and the lighter one had a bit of turn from the start and is still a very nice Eagle type disc (they're no longer in active use because I want to preserve them as baseline comparison discs when buying new ones, but I still take them out of a field occasionally). Dunno what to say, they've lasted incredibly well. I also have a P-PD2 in that blend and it started out very nearly as overstable as my CFR C-PD2s, and despite me abusing it as a spike hyzer and thumber disc for a year I can still count on it to not turn into a headwind. If they could do that blend consistently I would seriously consider switching many of my current drivers (a mix of S and C) to P-Line ones, because the feel is so nice and they glide better.
As for C-PDs, the ones I use are flat CFRs which are almost Firebird overstable, and indeed don't glide well. But really, I've moved on from only using PDs as my drivers, my primary line up now consists of S and C-FDs, S-TDs, S and C-PDs, P and S-DD2s (usually, occasionally I switch those out for a LEGENDa or two), and a FR Premium RESPECTi and GL Stiletto for utility purposes. The all-PD lineup did fill its purpose though, a beat light P-PD for understable shots, a light'ish P-PD for Eagle type lineshaping (mostly used it for straight shots), a max weight P-PD for a bit of overstability, S-PDs for a bit more overstability, and CFR C-PDs for a LOT of overstability. Got good results with that, but as soon as I really noticed that the springy P-PDs would be hard to replace if lost or beaten too much (it'll obviously happen eventually, no matter what you do), I switched them out and started using other, more readily available discs.
BentElbow11 wrote:Ok, I've seen enough Finland videos to make me envious of all that nice green grass.
You've seen ones from pretty selected locations then. We don't have a lot of grass around here. What we have is trees, hard packed dirt, tarmac and the occasional large rock. Sure there's some grass, but you need to be accurate to hit it. And next year when a new course opens closer to me it won't have anything other than trees, moss and rocks. =)